On Mar 10, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Shane Ford wrote: > Should I-AA wins count? > Speaking of the wins record, the Texas spring football guide just > arrived – all 308 pages of it. On the back of the guide is a chart > listing the "NCAA Active Victory Leaders," with Paterno and Bowden > first and second, followed by Texas' Mack Brown. > Upon close scrutiny, one notices that Bowden is 32 wins behind > Paterno, not one. Upon even closer scrutiny, one notices a line > saying "Record at FBS [i.e., Division I-A] schools only." Bowden > got 31 of his wins at Howard, which now is known as Samford – and > Samford is a FCS (i.e., Division I-AA) school. > Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer would be ahead of Brown, but Beamer > began his career at Murray State (also a FCS school), and when the > Murray State victories are removed, Brown moves into third.
This is a good argument, but it fails to paint how truly bad some of Bowden's claimed "victories" are. Not only are the bulk of Bowden's wins at Howard against Div-II opponents, many aren't even against varsity or college football teams; to wit: Samford does not play major college football, and all of those 31 victories at Howard/Samford were earned against teams not currently in Division I-A, including wins over The University of Mexico, Gordon Junior College, Millington Naval Air Station, and the Tennessee Tech Freshman Team. -Zeb http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Were_Division_1-A_and_Division_1- AA_wins_combined_when_Bobby_Bowden_surpassed_Joe_Paterno_as_the_coach_wi th_the_most_victories --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
