Don't become an Indian chief...I hear their having problems too...

Bill
Go Gators !!!
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gatornet Admin" <[email protected]>

Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:13:49 
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips


Welcome to MY world. At 58 years old, the opportunities virtually disappear in 
front of your eyes. I was in manufacturing automation in the textile industry 
for many years until all of the textile giants in the US died off. Most of the 
textile work has gone to China, so I had to reinvent myself in 2001. Now, I'm 
having to do it again in 2009. Hmm... what do I want to be THIS time? Cowboy? 
Fireman? Indian Chief? Don't know, but it will most certainly be something 
different...

Randy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [email protected] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:29 AM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips


  This is getting off Gators - so if we need to move it somewhere else - I 
understand

  Things are so tight and different today.  

  I am 47 years old now and already seeing the age discrimination thing - even 
though there is suppose to be a shortage of skilled workers in programming.  

  20+ years of experience, plus BS and Master's no longer seems to matter.

  Being able to "figure things out" no longer seems to matter.  People use to 
hire me to go figure out how to do things.  Nowadays - unless you've been doing 
something for 3 to 5 years - they assume you have no clue and never will be 
able to figure it out.

  What you did several years ago does not matter.  For 20+ years I did 
manufacturing automation.  Have done very little in the last 7 years.  My 
resume only goes back about 7 years.  People are looking for someone in 
automation - look at my resume - and tell me that I have no knowledge or 
experience.  

  How does someone change jobs and maintain an income the same?  If you 
completely start over - doesn't your income?  Doesn't your income drop to 1/4 
of what it was?

  Times are a changing ...

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
    From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
    Date: Fri, March 13, 2009 7:40 am
    To: [email protected]


    You try to figure out what else you can do. I took a buyout from the St. 
Pete Times last year because I could see that things were only going to get 
worse for the newspaper industry. Because I was personal finance editor, I 
thought reinventing myself as a financial adviser was a logical course of 
action. (http://www.holifieldhuntley.com/) I also have been doing some 
freelance writing and research. For example, I helped with the research for 
this book: 
http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Your-Money-Getting-Fortune/dp/0767929845/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236944055&sr=1-1
 .
    So far things are working out. However, my husband works in local 
government, where they are planning major layoffs, so he could be job hunting 
later this year.
    Helen

    On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

      I was thinking about that similar thing today.  I think that the Raleigh 
newspaper laid off its sports writers and now th only sports writers are in 
Charlotte covering the whole state.  

      If all you've ever done is go to college for something, and done 
something for like 20 years - what do you do when you are laid off and no one 
is hiring in your field?  It seems kind of ridiculous going back to school - 
after you've already graduated with a bachelor's or Master's.  



        -------- Original Message --------
        Subject: [gatortalk] Herald sports writer Mike Phillips
        From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
        Date: Thu, March 12, 2009 3:58 pm
        To: gatortalk <[email protected]>

        Is one of the Miami Herald writers who lost his job this week in the 
big layoff they had, according to a report I read. We've often had his stories 
posted to Gator News.



        




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