By then it might be too late.  

These guys have egos and they like to feel appreciated.  If UF waits until 
someone else forces their hand, Meyer may decide UF doesn't really value his 
contribution.

(In my career, the promotion I remember best was the one I didn't even ask for. 
 What a shock in the corporate world to get that.  My boss made it clear he did 
not want me to be tempted away).

And I don't think it's necessarily the numbers per se.  I think it could be 
something like "why on Earth does Nick Saban make more than me?"  It could just 
be the position relative to others.

Go Gators!!!!

Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:36:23 
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I guess what you are asking is - what should we (UF) do if Notre Dame, or for 
that matter, ay other school, started courting Urban Meyer? 
  
Then it would be time for AD and UF President to sit down with Meyer and 
discuss it.  Perhaps Meyer feels like he has done everything he wants to do at 
UF, ND is his dream job, and no amount of money would keep him at UF.  
  
Meyer makes what 3.5 million per year now?  And I doubt the guy has to ever pay 
for anything in Gville - except for taxes.  Let's say that he gets to keep 2 
million per year, its invested moderately, after 10 years is $20 - $25 
million.  At some point - money no longer means much.  You have everything you 
want.  You finally realize - money does not make you happy.  
  
You start to think - what would make me happy?  Coaching at ND?  Then no amount 
of money would keep him at UF.  
  
At that point in time - it would be worth it for the AD and UF PResident to ask 
Urban Meyer - what amount of $ would it take for you to stay at UF.  Perhaps 
there is a reasonable sum.  Perhaps the amount is unreasonable. Perhaps there 
is no amount in the world to keep him at UF.  
  
It would also play out through the media and change the perception.  Then 
everyone in the whole country would know - UF needs to give Meyer a raise to 
stay at UF.  
  
That happens all the time at smaller schools with great coaches.  
  
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From: Jerry Belloit <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, May 30, 2009 2:20 pm
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Keith, 
  
Do you think ND would worry about the economy? 
  
I bet they would jump at any opening. 
  
I do agree that Meyer might offer to take a reasonable pay cut, especially if 
any of his base salary comes from the university. 
  
Jerry 
  
 
 
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Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Machen: Meyer deserves raise 
  
 
I agree that Meyer is the best.  I agree that we need to whatever we can to 
keep Meyer.  
 
  
 
However, if Meyer accepts more pay in bad economic times like this - when the 
university is making cuts - it does not look good. 
 
  
 
Meyer should come out and say thanks - but lets wait for the economy to turn 
around before raising my pay.  
 
  
 
If Meyer wanted to go over the top - he should come out and want a 5% pay cut - 
or whatever is in line with the other pay cuts at UF.  
 
  
 
The economy is already turning around - he won't have to wait long to get a 
bigger raise.  But if he accepts a bigger salary now - that could start a 
firestorm.  
 
  
 
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Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Machen: Meyer deserves raise
From: "Shane Ford" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 10:06 pm
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Machen: Meyer deserves raise
 
  
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Florida coach Urban Meyer signed a new long-term contract two years ago that 
pays him about $3.25 million a year. 
  
By Robbie Andreu
Gainesville SUN Staff writer 
Published: Friday, May 29, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. 
Last Modified: Friday, May 29, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. 
 
  
 
SANDESTIN — After leading Florida to its second football national championship 
in three years, Urban Meyer is due a raise. 
 
That was the word from UF President Bernie Machen on Friday at the conclusion 
of the SEC's annual spring meetings. 
 
Machen said UF has to "redo a couple of coaches' contracts" in the next few 
months, and that Meyer deserved a raise. 
 
When asked if he expected Meyer to become the highest-paid coach in the SEC, 
Machen said, "I hope. I don't do that. (Athletic director) Jeremy Foley does. 
He should be. He's the best." 
 
Foley said Friday it's a little too early to start focusing on a new contract 
for Meyer. 
 
"We're still trying to put the budget together," Foley said. "At some point in 
time. ... I've always said when the time is right, we'll take a look at that. 
Right now is not the time." 
 
Meyer signed a new long-term contract two years ago that pays him about $3.25 
million a year. He is currently making less than LSU coach Les Miles and 
Alabama coach Nick Saban. Miles renegotiated a new contract a little more than 
a year ago that includes a clause that assures he will always be the 
highest-paid coach in the league. 
 
When Machen was asked if Meyer deserved to be the highest-paid coach in the 
nation, he said, "I don't know. That's not my market to figure out." 
 
Despite these difficult economic times, Machen said UF is going to do what it 
takes financially to secure Meyer and its many other successful coaches. 
 
"If you don't take care of your people, then things will come back to hit you 
in the head later on," Machen said. 
 
Machen said he isn't concerned about public perception. 
 
"That's OK," he said. "No. 1, we've got the best athletic programs in the 
country. And they're run very responsibly. We're not doing frivolous and 
irresponsible things. People will give me the credit for watching over that." 
 
One thing is obvious. Florida and the other 11 SEC schools are doing fine 
financially, based on the 2008-09 league revenue distribution that was released 
by the SEC on Friday. 
 
Only a few days after saying the SEC is not recession-proof, commissioner Mike 
Slive announced that the league distributed a record $132.5 million to its 12 
schools, a 4.0 percent increase from a year ago. The average amount distributed 
to each school was $11.1 million. 
 
The payoff for each school figures to be millions higher next year, when the 
SEC's new television contracts with CBS and ESPN kick in. 
 
Slive declined to speculate on what the figure might be a year from now. 
 
"I want you to come back (to the meetings) next year," Slive said. "We'll know 
then." 
 
Broken down by categories, the $132.5 million was derived from $52 million from 
football television, $25.4 million from bowls, $14.3 million from the SEC 
Football Championship Game, $13.6 million from basketball television, $4.1 
million from the men's conference basketball tournament and $23.1 million from 
NCAA Championships. 
 
Not included in the $132.5 million was $11.6 million retained by schools 
participating in bowls and $744,000 divided among all 12 schools by the NCAA 
for academic enhancement. 
 
Even though the league continues to prosper in this recession, the SEC is 
backing cost-cutting legislation that has been proposed by the NCAA, including 
the elimination of media guides in all sports, doing away with the NCAA 
regional track meets, limiting travel in some sports to ground transportation, 
and reducing the number of some contests. 
 
The SEC passed one significant piece of legislation concerning football 
recruiting, limiting schools to signing no more than 28 players to 
letters-of-intent per recruiting season. Over the past several years, some 
schools have signed more than 30 prospects, with the thought that some would 
not qualify academically. The NCAA limit is 25 per year (after attrition). 
  

 
 
 
  
 
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