Whew! I'm glad you said GEORGIA! That description comes very close to a guy 
that I know who lives in Tennessee. ;-)

Randy
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Woody 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:46 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] SEC trying to crack down on fans taking 
photos or even describing events from the stands


  I dont see how they can really stop it to be honest.  People are gonna wanna 
watch the game on espn and cbs anyway!  Like someone is gonna walk away from 
their TV watching the game.. just to go to their computer to see a picture some 
fat old bald guy from Georgia attending a Florida game posts a pic to facebook 
to share with the GatorNation.  How can they stop it.. ban any electronic 
device from any and all games?  Good luck with that.




  Woody





  On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:04 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm getting sick of this whole thing.  No first hand accounts of practice, 
no pictures or video of practice or the games. 

    I read all the news reports/articles on Gator paysites and from newspapers. 
 Same old story.  

    If you start limiting what all the fans can do - you become the NFL.  And 
most college football fans are people that were turned off by the NFL.  Now 
they want to turn off the college fans.  

    They're making it hard to be a fan.  

    I wonder if this is just the boost that minor league and high school 
football needs?

    Or will people just turn away from sports in general?


      -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: [gatornews] SEC trying to crack down on fans taking photos or
      even describing events from the stands
      From: Helen Huntley <[email protected]>
      Date: Sat, August 15, 2009 10:59 am
      To: [email protected]

      http://www.tampabay.com/news/article1027680.ece 
      SEC won't stand for views from stands
      By Michael Kruse, Times Staff Writer 

      Published Friday, August 14, 2009 

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      Dade City judge and University of Florida grad Pat Siracusa is such a big 
Gators football fan that he sometimes wears a replica Tim Tebow jersey under 
his black robe on Fridays in the fall. 
      His profile picture on his Facebook page is a photo he took with his 
phone from the stands at last January's national championship game. 
      It's a good memory. 
      But the Southeastern Conference might use a different word to describe 
that image: illegal. 
      The SEC, one of college sports' biggest, richest, most prominent leagues, 
earlier this month sent to its 12 schools an eye-opening new media policy. It 
places increasingly stringent limits on reporters and how much audio, video and 
"real-time" blogging they can do at games, practices and news conferences. 
      But even more interesting is that the policy also includes rules for fans 
in the stands. No updating Twitter feeds. No taking photos with phones and 
posting them on Facebook or Flickr. No taking videos and putting them on 
YouTube. 
      A league spokesman said this policy was meant to try to keep as many 
eyeballs as possible on ESPN and CBS — which are paying the SEC $3 billion for 
the broadcast rights to the league's games over the next 15 years — and also on 
the SEC Digital Network — the league's own entity that's scheduled to debut on 
SECSports.com later this month. 
      Many are saying this makes the bosses of the SEC look like fuddy-duddy 
technophobes — that they don't "get" new media. 
      They get it. The language of the league's policy suggests they know all 
too well the high-stakes fight that's just beginning. 
      If exclusivity is the aim, and it is, because it's that exclusivity that 
commands the billions of dollars from TV networks, then the fans aren't just 
fans anymore. They're looking more and more like so many cell phone-equipped 
individual information feeds. 
      And here is the digital-age realization: The SEC's greatest supporters 
are now also the SEC's biggest competitors. 
      • • • 
      All sports leagues have rules for what reporters can and can't do. It's 
in a credential agreement. All sports leagues also have rules for what fans can 
and can't do. It's often found on the backs of tickets. This is not new. 
      What's different about the SEC's new policy is twofold: 
      1. There's still a media policy and a fan policy. But the fan policy 
talks an awful lot about media. 
      2. It's the most stringent language yet in college sports. 
      Due to the angry response from columnists, bloggers and fans, the policy 
is "undergoing a revisionary process," said Charles Bloom, the league 
spokesman, and a final version is expected on Monday. But here is the language 
as it stands now: 
      Ticketed fans can't "produce or disseminate (or aid in producing or 
disseminating) any material or information about the Event, including, but not 
limited to, any account, description, picture, video, audio, reproduction or 
other information concerning the Event … ." 
      Very broad. That's on purpose. 
      "So if I call my buddy and tell him what's going on," said Siracusa, the 
judge with the Facebook photo, "that would be in violation of the policy, too?" 
      Much of the fan reaction over the past week — aside from open-mouthed 
exasperation — has focused on enforcement. Namely: How? 
      Said David Hooper of the Tennessee fan site Rocky Top Talk: "They'll be 
chasing shadows." 
      Take Florida Field in Gainesville. A capacity crowd there is a lot of 
fans. 
      "I mean, you have 90,000 of them," UF associate athletics director Mike 
Hill said last week. "That's a hard thing to police." 
      In truth, though, the league isn't so worried about the judge's Facebook 
photo, or his phone call. They're not so worried about text messages and 
tweets. 
      What they're worried about is what the judge's phone, and everybody 
else's phone, will be able to do in two years from now, five years from now, 10 
years from now. 
      "I would guess," said Mike Masnick, the editor of the respected blog 
techdirt, "that they're realizing that anyone can be a reporter or a 
broadcaster these days. 
      "And for them," he said, "that's pretty scary." 
      • • • 
      The rub is this: The audience isn't the audience anymore. 
      New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen has a term for this 
fundamental shift: the people formerly known as the audience. Arizona State 
professor Dan Gillmor is more succinct: We the Media. That's the title of his 
book on the subject. 
      Two Australian researchers published a paper on this just last month. The 
title: "From Broadcast Scarcity to Digital Plenitude: The Changing Dynamics of 
the Media Sport Content Economy." 
      They wrote about "user-generated content," "technological convergence," 
and "emerging zones of conflict," but the problem for the SEC, and any other 
league, can be boiled down to this declarative sentence: 
      "The exclusivity that can be secured in the domain of television cannot 
be guaranteed online." 
      Go to YouTube. Search pretty much any game anywhere. Some of what pops up 
are clips taken by fans with their phones from the stands. They're almost 
always grainy, or jumpy, and generally low-quality. 
      They're not going to be that way forever. 
      The only certainty in technology is that it gets faster and cheaper, 
exponentially, always. 
      Imagine, then, a day not too far away when fans from their seats will use 
their phones to stream onto the Internet a video feed, for free, that 
conceivably could approximate the images for which ESPN and CBS have paid 
billions of dollars. 
      That in mind, the SEC's new media policy is "prescient," said Dave 
Hendricks, who blogs about "media and monetization, attention and permission" 
at attentionization.com. 
      "They're thinking into the future," he said. "They're saying the biggest 
competitor for us is someone in the stands who can live vlog a game" — that is, 
video blog — "which is an inevitability. That's their real competition: 
sophisticated video bloggers who are going to siphon off the audience." 
      "I would say," said Masnick, from techdirt, "it's not only plausible, but 
probable. The idea that you could create an amateur citizen media sporting 
event broadcast is very much in the realm of possibility." 
      And then? 
      Exclusivity is "a myth," he said. "I don't think you can enforce 
exclusivity in a world where the technology and the ease of access makes the 
walls that used to be there just melt away." 
      And then? 
      "If it reaches the point where it's not just 15 people doing this, it's 
1,000 people, it gets more and more difficult to stop," he said. "At which 
point you either stop letting fans into games or you figure out a way to deal 
with the fact that fans are going to do this." 
      And then? 
      "The days of the multibillion-dollar exclusive contracts are possibly in 
jeopardy," said Gillmor, the author of We the Media. 
      "The idea that people can't capture their own lived experience is a 
losing proposition," Clay Shirky said last week. Shirky is an expert on new 
media and the author of Here Comes Everybody. What he writes about, he has 
said, are "systems where vested interests lose out to innovation." 
      That's what this is: a system (the SEC), with vested interests (billions 
of them), trying with this new media policy to at least postpone the third part 
of that progression. 
      "But in the end," Masnick said, "you can't stop what technology allows." 
      Times staff writers Drew Harwell, Kim Wilmath and Shannon Colavecchio and 
Times news researcher Shirl Kennedy contributed to this report. Michael Kruse 
can be reached at [email protected] or (727) 893-8751. 







  

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