This debate rages about the same time every year. It is fueled by sportswriters' desire to remain relevant in the 2-3 weeks before the season starts. Since this the second inflammatory article out of the Sentinel this summer (remember they were the ones who reported the ever relevant arrest record of Meyer's players) they must be in real trouble down there. I just hope they can sell a few papers off this so that when the season starts they'll still be around.
But, new season, same gripe. If anyone would like to give Jeremy Foley a way to make up the $2million+ loss the program would suffer in scheduling a home and away game with USC then have at it. I'm sure he'd listen. In the mean time, as Ken says, I'd like to see USC fight it out in the SEC from year to year. Pete Carrol can't even beat Oregon State consistently. Because that PAC 10 is so tough? Hardly. Even with the cream puffs we play in a tougher conference than anyone else in the country. And, we have f$U every year. Could that be why we held the most potent offense in the country to 14 points in the NC game last year? Hmm. Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615-822-2027 Mobile: 615-972-4239 _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:09 AM To: Gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] SEC football teams seem to have an appetite for cream- I agree with everything everyone has said so far... but I still think we can do better than.......... Charleston Southern... Troy... eh ok fine... but there is no reason Florida should be playin a 1-AA team in my opinion. Woody On Aug 18, 2009 8:54am, Kenneth Beitler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris' first mistake is to call the > > PAC 10 "highly competitive." > > > > > > > > > > Then he points to some of the tough > > non-conference opponents SoCal has played, such as . . . Auburn. Duh. > > > > > > > > > > Pete Carroll has to schedule tough > > non-conference games; his team is in a wussy conference, and he knows it. > > > > > > > > > > When people criticize UF's > > non-conference opponents to me, I point out that we play in the SEC, plus F$U, and > > therefore have no need to play tough non-conference games. Our schedule > > is already one of the toughest in the country, year-in and year-out. > > > > > > > > > > And if we played in a weaker conference, > > such as the ACC, I suspect the same thing that has happened to F$U would happen > > to us: we'd start playing down to their level, and end up a weaker > > program. I might be wrong about that, but that is what I would expect. > > > > > > > > > > Go Gators!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > > > Sent: 08/18/2009 5:30 AM > > > To: gatortalk googlegroups > > > Subject: [gatortalk] RE: > > [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] SEC football teams seem to have an appetite for > > cream-puff competition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either Chris has > > NOT been in the sports writing business very long (naive) or he has and is > > saying this just to piss us off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the Gators switched > > conferences with USC - the Gators would win the conference every year. If > > the Gators went to the ACC or Big Ten - the Gators would win the conference > > every year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Gators play in > > the toughest conference - the SEC - were they are the favorites to win the SEC > > - but most any team is talented enough to trip them up (see Old Miss last > > year). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who was the best > > conference last year? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm?loc=interstitialskip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and which conference > > was below the ACC ? (how embarassing for the PAC10) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who's schedule was > > ranked #4 last year and who's schedule was ranked #16? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so Chris - the facts > > do NOT back you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either Chris has > > no clue what he is talking about OR he does and is just > > trying to piss us off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait until the season > > is over and then check the conference and team rankings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- > > Original Message -------- > > > Subject: [gatornews] [OrlSentinel] SEC football teams seem to have an > > > appetite for cream-puff competition > > > From: "[email protected]" [email protected]> > > > Date: Mon, August 17, 2009 11:11 pm > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/orl-sportsfootball-creampuffs-16081609aug 16,0,6511134.story > > > > > > > > > OrlandoSentinel.com > > > > SEC football teams seem to have an appetite > > for cream-puff competition > > > > > > > > > By Chris Harry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SENTINEL STAFF WRITER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2:56 AM EDT, August > > 16, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's > > easy when you're Southern Cal, right? > > > > > > The Trojans, who annually boast a roster equivalent to a 33rd NFL team, play in > > the highly competitive Pac-10 Conference. Yet since 2002 they've ventured out > > of their league - and well out of their time zone - for road dates > > at Ohio State, Nebraska, Arkansas, Auburn, Kansas State, Colorado, Brigham > > Young, Virginia and Notre Dame, plus a neutral-site showdown against Virginia > > Tech. > > > > > > "If you're a competitor, you want to play the best," said USC Coach > > Pete Carroll, whose program has excelled with the all-comers mentality, going > > 82-9 over the last seven seasons, with a pair of national championships and a > > couple of Heisman Trophy winners. "Who wouldn't want to play games like > > that?" > > > > > > The Southeastern Conference, that's who. > > > > > > Carroll may have the Trojan horses to gallop every year into places like > > Columbus, Lincoln and the "Loveliest Village on the Plain," but it's > > not like SEC sidelines are stacked with Washington State rejects. Last time we > > checked, the SEC had collected the previous three BCS trophies, with Florida sandwiching two > > national championships around another for LSU. > > > > > > And yet a month from now, Charleston Southern and Troy will have come to > > Florida Field - blindfolded with cigarettes dangling from their facemasks > > - for a pair of public executions. Two months later, Florida > > International will be dead-panthers walking. > > > > > > Suggested last meals: Cream puffs, of course. > > > > > > Florida Athletic Director Jeremy Foley oversees a program that hasn't played a > > non-conference, regular-season game outside the state since the Gators lost at Syracuse in 1991. It has, > > however, played Florida > > State every year since > > 1958, which requires no apology. > > > > > > "It's a year-to-year conversation." Foley said of his schedule. > > "Last year we played Hawaii and Miami, and nobody was > > saying anything." > > > > > > Are we picking on the Gators? Yes, but don't worry. There are plenty of > > perpetrators of this practice, especially in the Big Ten and Big 12. UF, > > though, is close to home and makes for an easy target. > > > > > > A game against Lake Highland Prep would draw 90,000 to the Swamp, but that's > > not the point. Still, Foley has no problem declaring he has no intention of > > seeking a home-and-home series that would forfeit a seventh home game and the > > estimated $2 million in revenue he uses to fund one of the nation's finest overall > > athletic programs. > > > > > > "Other schools have made the decision to do that," Foley said. > > "We won't." > > > > > > And there are those, clearly, that just want to pad the slate. > > > > > > Like Mississippi. > > > > > > The Rebels are favored to reach Atlanta and play > > in the SEC title game for the first time, but their toughest non-conference foe > > is Memphis on > > the road. That's barely an hour from Oxford. > > > > > > "Doesn't matter who you're playing," Ole Miss Coach Houston Nutt > > said. "Everybody wants a piece of you." > > > > > > Geez. Stop Tim Tebow on a fourth-and-inches and suddenly you're Bear Bryant. > > > > > > LSU, with two national titles the previous six years, would get some credit for > > opening at Washington; > > if Don James was still coaching there. The Huskies were 0-12 last year, and the > > Tigers' remaining three non-conference games are home dates against fellow Louisiana programs that > > combined for 14 wins. > > > > > > Alabama is actually stepping up with a > > season-opening, neutral-site game against Virginia Tech at the Georgia Dome, > > but the Crimson Tide steps back down with FIU, North Texas > > and Tennessee-Chattanooga. > > > > > > A round of applause, though, for Georgia, > > which besides its rivalry season finale with Georgia Tech, opens at Oklahoma State > > and plays host to Arizona > > State. > > > > > > "We might have bit off more than we should have," Bulldogs Coach Mark > > Richt said. > > > > > > It'd be nice to see more Dawg-like entries in the hunt. > > > > > > Here's a breakdown of the nation's 2009 non-conference games. > > > > > > Which > > college football cream-puff contest is the biggest mismatch on the 2009 > > schedule? > > > > > > 5 > > college football "Christians vs. the Lions" games of 2009 > > > > > > How > > BCS conferences stack up with non-conference opponents > > > > > > BCS > > opponents by the numbers > > > > > > College > > football scheduling's good, bad & the ugly > > > > > > 11 > > meaty matchups that make college football worth watching in September > > > > > > How > > non-BCS college football conferences have fared against BCS foes since 1998 > > > > > > Chris Harry can be reached at [email protected]. > > Staff writer Andrea Adelson contributed to this report. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
