From: Gatornet Admin <[email protected]>
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
----- Original Message -----From: CeciliaSent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:18 PMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSUBoyfriends come and go. Daddy is forever. ;-)Cee----- Original Message -----From: Gatornet AdminSent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:50 AMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSUTrue. If I lived in Knox for ANY amount of time, I'd probably agree with you. However, I'm currently trying to convert my daughter's vol boyfriend from a "gator hater" to a somewhat neutral "SEC" fan. So far, he seems to be softening, although we have agreed we will NOT watch the game together. My daughter, on the other hand, is watching the game with her dad. ;-)Randy----- Original Message -----From: Rob AlexanderSent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:20 PMSubject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSUHah! That, my friend, is because you didn’t live in Knoxville for six years like I did. The fans, even those who were supposed to be my friends, were arrogant and overbearing in victory and miserable, just downright mean, in defeat. In my book, there is no room for sympathy toward the toothless ones. J
Rob
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:24 PM
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
I only have two schools I taunt - UGA and f$u. Even if we lose to them, I will still taunt them at every opportunity. I never lost my swagger. :)
Uh, I have grown "sympathetic" to UT. They are like children who still believe in Santa Claus. Would YOU tell them Santa is a fake or wait until he's exposed?
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Alexander
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:12 PM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
I dropped an email to Rob Oller expressing pretty much the same thing Randy said below, that a lot of the Gator taunting of the OSU fans is a backlash to how Gator fans were treated before the game. I also mentioned friends telling me that Oklahoma fans got along well with Gator fans before the game and the lack of the same type of animosity there. One reaps what one sows.
Oller turns out to be a pretty nice guy. He acknowledged that OSU fans were obnoxious before the game and commented that they should have known better after being in the same underdog position against Miami in 2002, and not liking the arrogance of the Miami fans then. He’s clearly not taking the whole thing too seriously. He concluding by suggesting Florida fans not forget how they were treated bu OSU if they end up in the BCSCG yet again this year. Fair enough. We certainly shouldn’t treat any fans not from the dog pound, Toothlessville or that school out west the way we were treated by OSU.
Rob
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:01 AM
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
EXXXXXACTLY my point Randy. You know I hear all the time that "gator fans are the most obnoxious of all fans" blah blah blah......... how soon they forget how they acted as well... Frankly I am sick of hearing it... so you know what.. I let them talk their smack all they want... but I never forget.. and I am very quick to return the favor when they are handed their behinds by the Gators and I do not apologize for it.
Woody
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Gatornet Admin <[email protected]> wrote:
Yeah, although I didn't go to the game, I know a few OSU fans here in Chattanooga and before the game, they acted like the gators were wasting their time even showing up for the game. There was NO WAY we even had a chance! :)
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Polhill
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
A favorite memory for both Paula and I is all the taunting we took from OSU fans on the way to Phoenix and watching them hide from us on the way home. :)
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
From: Jeffery Herman <[email protected]>
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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:20:13 PM
Subject: [gatornews] Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
Rob Oller commentary: Disdain for Gators comes at perfect time for OSU
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:12 AM
By Rob Oller
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The decline of a rivalry is a rotten thing, which is why Ohio State should be happy to be mocked in Daytona Beach and laughed at in Orlando.
Just as Coke needs Pepsi and Fox News needs CNN, the Buckeyes need Florida to fill the rivalry void momentarily vacated by Michigan, which has been Joe Frazier to OSU's Ali, but is showing signs of becoming Jerry Quarry. A continuing slide into mediocrity by Michigan would be a shame for both OSU and UM, much like watching Phil Mickelson fail to break 80 against Tiger Woods.
"It's the old saying that there's no rivalry between a hammer and nail," said Robert Carrothers, a professor at Ohio Northern University specializing in sports culture.
Florida, meanwhile, is a wrecking ball to OSU's hammer. The two schools' general dislike of each another is no typical rivalry; the two teams have played only once, but that was enough to set in motion a set of circumstances that has created a current of emotion both swift and deep.
The one-directional anger -- north to south -- and one-directional snickering -- south to north -- began with four numerals and a hyphen: 41-14. That's not only the score of Florida's victory in the 2007 BCS national championship game, but it also reflects a clash of cultures currently dominated by the Sunbelt. Forget football. How does Ohio, ranked as the 10th fattest state, compete against bikinis, beaches and the 13th disciple, Tim Tebow?
And Florida fans never let Buckeye Nation forget it. It would be one thing if the Gators handled their superiority with grace. They don't. If obnoxious was a 100-meter race, UF fans would be Usain Bolt. And OSU fans would finish a close second.
Of course, Florida has reason to be unbearable, having won two of the past three national titles, not to mention the 2007 NCAA basketball championship (By beating you-know-who). Ohio State returns volley with, "Get back to us when you've done it for 60-plus years."
Now, the Gators are ranked No. 1 in the preseason polls; OSU is No. 6. It's no wonder some among the scarlet-and-gray faithful brought out the pitchforks and torches last week upon learning that linebacker Tyler Moeller was decked in Gators Cafe and Saloon in Treasure Island, Fla. The alleged assailant wasn't necessarily for Florida, but he was from Florida.
That bit of nastiness aside, the overall animosity between the two fan bases is healthy in a deep-fried Oreo sort of way.
"Hate has a way of making people feel alive," said Richard Lustberg, a licensed psychologist in New York who operates the Web site psychologyofsports.com. "Hanging onto a grudge for a long time gives people a feeling of being pumped up and energized beyond a humdrum day."
Lustberg further explained that rivalries are important places "where people can let go of their feelings of anger and frustration and thereby understand the rivalries in their own lives, whether it be boyfriend-girlfriend or whether that guy you play golf against."
I won't pretend to understand all that, but Florida making fun of Ohio State makes the heart beat faster. On both sides.
Carrothers continued the conversation.
"You identify with a team, sometimes because you grew up watching grandpa watching them," he said. "It reaffirms who you are as a person. So an attack on Ohio State is an attack on the whole family. There is a strong emotional component to it."
Knowing that emotional release is an important part of healthy living, Carrothers even does his part to keep OSU fans feeling fit.
"They don't like to be reminded of their losses, so I put Florida stuff up in my office to punk them," he said. "I had a lot of fun that year (2007) doing the Gator chomp."
The Buckeyes desperately want to bite back. Nothing like blood in the water to make a football fan feel alive.
Rob Oller is a sports reporter for The Dispatch.
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