Yeah, but a sclerologist wouldn't need to look at anything.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Bianchi - OrlSentinel] Gasp! Tebowplaysamid media circus You are correct. I would add though, that even a neurologist would be wrong to try to give any opinion on a specific patient without meeting that patient and looking at all that patient's data first. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: John Vega <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:52:05 -0400 To: <[email protected]> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Bianchi - OrlSentinel] Gasp! Tebow playsamid media circus Not sure a brain surgeon would be my first stop for a concussion, once a CT rules out an intra-cranial bleed, I'd head to a neurologist not a neurosurgeon. To me the issue on these articles is not that columnist should never have an opinion on a medical issue unless he is an MD. There are many good movie critics that have never made a movie, and many wine critics that have never made wine. That doesn't make their assessments invalid. The issue is that responsible reporting or editorials require research to have validity. If a sportswriter interviewed a neurologist who specialized in concussions, and used that information as a basis for an opinion piece, I think that that is fair game. Extra credit for using the internet to access and read peer-reviewed medical articles on the subject. Coming up with an opinion out of thin air, or because another sportswriter said so, would be irresponsible. I think Bianchi goes to far when concluding that a sportswriter should never have had an opinion on this subject. Surely a properly researched piece would have been appropriate, a poorly (or non-) researched position equally inappropriate. I've not made a comment on this subject in this forum without discussion with a neurologist that I was watching the game with at the time. His opinion was shared by the sports physician and head trauma/ER manager sitting on either side of him. A lesson I have taken from this whole debate is that physicians rarely speak with one voice, and that concussions are not like ACL tears. The diagnosis and cure for an ACL tears are pretty clear at this point, there is a lot yet to learn about concussions. -Zeb On Oct 11, 2009, at 8:42 PM, [email protected] wrote: Yep, he was just complaining about all the writers who are now brain surgeons. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:23:11 -0400 To: <[email protected]> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Bianchi - OrlSentinel] Gasp! Tebow plays amid media circus I thought so initially until I read the whole thing. The article is actually a rather good parity on the absurdness of the Tebow concussion coverage. I agree with his conclusion. Jerry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:12 PM To: GatorTalk Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Bianchi - OrlSentinel] Gasp! Tebow plays amid media circus Over the years, I have really enjoyed MUCH of what Mike writes. I've even forwarded articles to friends that don't subscribe to Gatornews, but every now and then, he'll write one that comes out of nowhere. This is one of those articles. Is he being possessed by Larry Guest? Is Larry Guest even dead yet? Maybe he's filling in for Mike while Mike's on vacation? Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Badrish Davanagere <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: [gatornews] [Bianchi - OrlSentinel] Gasp! Tebow plays amid media circus orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/orl-sportsbianchi-11101109oct1 1,0,5660402.column OrlandoSentinel.com Gasp! Tebow plays amid media circus Mike Bianchi SPORTS COMMENTARY 11:23 PM EDT, October 10, 2009 Tim Tebow, the only athlete in the history of sports to ever suffer a concussion, actually started Saturday night against LSU. Not only that, he won the game and solidified his legend in the process. Nevermind that Florida's offense only scored one touchdown and this slobber-knocking SEC slugfest was actually won by the Gators' dominating defense, this will go down as another chapter in the Trilogy of Tebow. First, he gave us The Promise. And now he gives us The Awakening. This just in: After Tebow woke up from a concussion two weeks ago to lead the No. 1-ranked Gators to a monumental 13-3 victory over No. 4 LSU on a psychotic Saturday night at Tiger Stadium, Barack Obama announced he's turning over his Nobel Prize to Tebow. Gasp! This may go down as the biggest medical miracle since Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin in 1928. According to ESPN's Joe Schad, Fleming made his discovery in the basement of St. Marys Hospital in London, where he was trying to cure a local constable -- a man by the name of Alistaire Phinneas Tebow -- of whooping cough. Then, as now, Tebow was a trailblazer. Didn't you know? Concussions never really existed before Tebow got one. In fact, in honor of Tebow, the American Medical Association has proposed changing the name of the injury from plain ol' concussion to "Cranial Tebow Trauma." We're kidding, of course, to provide perspective to the ridiculous national outcry over Tebow's playing status going into Saturday night. Like everything else about Tebow, even his headaches have become fodder for debate. Bill Rhoden, a columnist for the New York Times, summed up the inanity when he wrote: "What debate? Tebow shouldn't play. No coach who truly cares about the long- and short-term health of a player would throw one to the wolves." Suddenly, now that Tebow had a concussion, every sportswriter worth his weight in unmatched socks somehow acquired a medical degree. Who cares if an army of real doctors and neurologists commissioned by UF cleared Tebow to play when the local scribe at the Yeehaw Junction Town Crier thinks he should sit? Coming soon: Wilbon and Kornheiser debate national healthcare on PTI. Seriously, do you think the New York Times will write columns next week on the dozens of NFL and college players who get concussions every day and play games a week or two later? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for football coaches and team doctors doing everything possible to protect their players, but in the end football players will always get head injuries just as coal miners will always contract lung problems. When 300-pound men spend years banging their heads together at a high rate of speed -- guess what -- there's going to be repercussions to the brain. You knew if Tebow was cleared to play Saturday, there was no way he was going to miss the biggest game of the season in front of the biggest crowd in Tiger Stadium history. He's a football and football players always choose to play. Just like 30 years ago when former UF linebacker Scot Brantley, ironically the uncle of Gators' backup quarterback John Brantley, decided to play. In the first game of his senior season in 1979, Brantley's helmet struck a running back's knee and Brantley was knocked unconscious with a concussion. Florida's team doctors told Brantley his football career was over. Brantley got a second opinion and ended up playing nearly 10 years in the NFL. "When you're a football player, you know there are times you're going to get your brain scrambled," Brantley said. "That's the risk we take. If you're an athlete, you're always going to choose to get back out on the field. "Tim (is making) the same decision I made 30 years." I know this is hard to believe, but, yes, there were actually concussions 30 years ago. Even 40, 50 ... 100 years ago. Contrary to what you may have been led to believe this week, Tebow did not invent concussions. But just like everybody else, he played a week or two after getting one. That's not a crime. That's football. 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