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From: Arthur Polhill [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [espn.com] Maisel: Coaches: Tebow is the difference I do not think this game will be close. We will dominate the first and second quarters. Alabama will try to mount a comeback in the third quarter and will totally wilt in the fourth. I've mortgaged the house to the hilt, sold all the silver, gold, china and chrystal and am looking for Alabama fans for side bets. If Saban could have kept a job, he would have. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If any of his former teams had wanted to keep him, they could have. That's also my story and I'm standing by it. If he had been any good, Lame would own his a@@ in the land of slime. That's indesputable and a very big part of my story. If they were national caliber, Auburn should not have been able to drive them into tomorrow. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If Mount Cody is immovable, great! We'll go around him. If he's too high, we'll mount him. (Comments are not allowed on GatorTalk at this point.) Or, we'll tunnel under him. That is my story and I'll stick to it. Alabama is the second peice of Gator toast this week. UF 38 Bama 10 A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: gatortalk googlegroups <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 3:42:59 PM Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [espn.com] Maisel: Coaches: Tebow is the difference I agree. Tebow is in their minds. They are convinced that they can't beat Tebow. They are convinced that next year - the Gators will suck because Tebow will be gone. In huge games - I agree that Tebow is a difference maker. But next year I expect our offense to be better. Better passing QB and better use of all those weapons. Alabama is not some second rate team. Even if Florida is better - Alabama could still win if Florida turns the ball over. Remember all those ugly wins we had this year? Urban Meyer has been planning and practicing for this game all year. Protect the football - at all costs - on offense, use the special teams to control field position, and expect the defense to play lights out. I hated those games as much as anyone. But going into the biggest game of the year - I'm feeling confident. We got some big uglies up on the OL that can wall out mount cody. We got some play makers that can take it to the house whenever they touch the ball. We've got a mismatch TE - sometimes FB, sometimes wideout that could be our most potent weapon. We have so much depth that a first round NFL draft pick is ineligible, our star running back has a high ankle sprain, one of our leading receivers (Carl Moore) is out, our next Percy (Debose) is out, plus I think it is Hobbs, Monroe, and several other players out or with injuries - and its no big deal. But just in case we lose - I'll stop by Home Depot and pick up some wall patch repair stuff. This game is too close to call. It will be a game that everyone talks about for decades. Thank god superman is on our side. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gatornews] [espn.com] Maisel: Coaches: Tebow is the difference From: Badrish <[email protected]> Date: Thu, December 03, 2009 3:19 pm To: [email protected] Originally Published: December 2, 2009 Coaches: Tebow is the difference <http://search.espn.go.com/ivan-maisel/> By Ivan Maisel ESPN.com Archive <http://search.espn.go.com/ivan-maisel/> The four Southeastern Conference coaches ESPN.com surveyed to analyze the league championship game Saturday between No. 1 Florida and No. 2 Alabama have one thing in common: All four went 0-2 against the Gators and the Crimson Tide this season. [+] Enlarge <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=47 06117> Don McPeak/US PresswireIf there was any team that knew Tim Tebow, it was Dan Mullen's Mississippi State squad. They have one other thing in common, that is, with the fans and the media: They didn't stop talking about Gators senior quarterback Tim Tebow <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183484> . But on that topic, the coaches' mileage did vary. There was the conventional stance of Tennessee head coach Lane Kiffin, who said, "If it wasn't for Tebow, it's easy. Alabama wins the game." There lies the conundrum of defending against Florida. The coaches also said the key to stopping the Gators' offense is to put the ball in Tebow's hands. Well, not in so many words. Let them explain. Tebow will make plays, as the saying goes. But he doesn't make big plays. "They don't have the quick-strike capability they had with [Percy] Harvin and [Louis] Murphy," South Carolina defensive coordinator Ellis Johnson said, referring to the star wideouts of the 2008 team. "The teams that played them early didn't realize it. They've got real good receivers, but not like Harvin and Murphy. They are a little more blue-collar." Mississippi State tried to make Tebow and the Gators' offense execute long drives. The strategy of head coach Dan Mullen, Tebow's offensive coordinator for the quarterback's first three seasons, worked well. Florida scored only two offensive touchdowns, only one of which came on a drive that began in Florida territory. "We really encouraged them to run Tim Tebow," Mullen said. "One thing with Tim is he will wear you down but he will not beat you with the big play. They moved the ball on us, but we stopped them in the red zone." How They Fared ... * Oct. 3: Alabama 38, Kentucky 20 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292760096> * Oct. 17: Alabama 20, So. Carolina 6 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292900333> * Oct. 24: Alabama 12, Tennessee 10 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292970333> * Nov. 14: Alabama 31, Mississippi St. 3 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=293180344> * Sept. 19: Florida 23, Tennessee 13 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292620057> * Sept. 26: Florida 41, Kentucky 7 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292690096> * Oct. 24: Florida 29, Mississippi St. 19 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292970344> * Nov. 14: Florida 24, South Carolina 14 <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=293182579> Tebow has rushed for 796 yards on 193 carries this season. But he has only six rushes of more than 20 yards. His rushing totals are skewed by sacks, which is another issue. Florida has allowed 28 sacks, 10th in the SEC. Kentucky head coach Rich Brooks thinks Tebow took a step back after the Wildcats' 41-7 loss to the Gators on Sept. 26. Kentucky defensive end Taylor Wyndham's full-speed sack of Tebow ended in a concussion for the quarterback. "He isn't doing it like he was doing it earlier," Brooks said. "He's been sacked a whole bunch of times. They are one of the worst teams in terms of protecting. He looks a little indecisive in the passing game. ... He goes away from the first read and gets indecisive and starts running around and gets sacked." Unless he doesn't. The problem with putting the ball in Tebow's hands is that you're putting the ball in Tebow's hands. No one is better at converting third downs. Kiffin summed up a defense's dilemma well. "People are coming free versus Florida," Kiffin said. "But Tebow is so hard to tackle." If stopping the Florida offense means taking away the big play, stopping Alabama is the polar opposite. "With Florida, let's see you execute 14 plays," Mullen said. "That's what Alabama wants to do. You want to force Alabama to take shots." Alas, the Crimson Tide cruised to a 31-3 victory over the Bulldogs. "We wanted to force them into making big plays," Mullen said. "They made four of them." Greg McElroy <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=191494> threw touchdown passes of 45 and 48 yards in that game, while tailback Mark Ingram <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=379061> ran 70 yards for a fourth-quarter touchdown. Ingram took over the fourth quarter against South Carolina as well, getting all 68 rushing yards on the final touchdown drive to finish with a career-high 246 yards in a 20-6 victory. [+] Enlarge <http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=47 06117> Marvin Gentry/US PresswireCan quarterback Greg McElroy make enough plays for Alabama? "A lot of our game plan was predicated on getting to the quarterback," Johnson said. "I got greedy and allowed Ingram to break out of the box. ... The quarterback is a very limited kid. He's had some good drives. You can't rattle him mentally. Our pressure package was totally focusing on making that quarterback make mistakes." Johnson put it simply: "If Alabama can run the ball, they'll beat Florida." That is not easy to do. The Gators allow 89.9 rushing yards per game, second in the SEC to Alabama (77.1). The coaches admire both defenses. To a man, they raved about the speed and athleticism of the Gators, especially in the secondary. None would venture a guess at the effect of the suspension of defensive end Carlos Dunlap. Brooks said it's hard to gauge the inner dynamics of a team. "They could rally and say, 'We're not a one-man team,'" Brooks said. "Or it could be a major distraction, this close to the biggest game of the year." The Alabama defense drew admiration for head coach Nick Saban's ability to take very talented players and concoct a scheme to confound the opposing quarterback. "They are so schematically sound," Kiffin said. "If you do start to beat them, Nick and Kirby [Smart, the defensive coordinator] are so good. They adjust. They are an NFL staff. NFL offenses will expose you, but can you adjust?" Kiffin called Saban's Crimson Tide "the best-coached team in the country. They have few penalties. They allow few sacks. They're very disciplined. They don't give up big plays." And yet, the Crimson Tide don't have a quarterback who has started 22 consecutive victories, has won a national championship and a Heisman, and is 34-5 overall as a starter. Alabama doesn't have Tebow. "The biggest difference, when Florida has the ball, when you get to the big game, is experience at the quarterback position when the game is on the line," Mullen said. "Not that Alabama can't do it. The guy did it last week. It's the experience. Maybe he'll do it in the big game. Tebow plays his best in the biggest games." Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com and hosts the ESPNU College Football podcast. Send your questions and comments to Ivan at [email protected]. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
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