Joe Glover, Provost & Patricia Telles-Irvin, Vice President for Student Affairs. I'd also copy President Machen. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain
________________________________ From: John Vega <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:24:12 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF students run afoul of UF's Haiti travel ban [Crabbe] I'd be happy to. Who would you recommend? -Zeb On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Arthur Polhill wrote: Did you copy UF on this? > A. Leon Polhill, Gator >"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. >I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain > > > > > ________________________________ From: John Vega <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:03:17 AM >Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF students run afoul of UF's >Haiti travel ban [Crabbe] > > > >On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Shane Ford wrote: > >Glover said the students were told they wouldn't be allowed to use additional >material filmed in Haiti but decided to make a unilateral decision to go in >order to get "juicy footage." They could have instead traveled to the >Dominican Republic to complete their work, he said, or changed the emphasis of >the documentary,. >>He dismissed the idea of allowing an exemption, saying the university would >>be opening itself up to liability if a student traveling to the country was >>injured or killed. >>"You can be sure that we would have been held at least partially responsible >>for that," he said. >>The students are now considering whether to risk failing by submitting the >>thesis with the material and exploring whether they have any legal recourse >>to challenge the policy. Documentary Institute Director Churchill Roberts >>said applying the policy to a thesis raises questions about free speech and >>academic freedom. >>"I've never had anyone tell me what can or can't be put in a thesis," he said. >>The issue is not a simple free speech question, said Clay Calvert, director >>of the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at UF. The university could >>simply be uniformly enforcing a policy based on protecting student safety >>that has the unintended consequences of affecting speech, he said. > >I've read the actual travel "ban." To be frank, it is more of a disclaimer. > > >A link is here: http://www.admin.ufl.edu/DDD/default.asp?doc=15.8.2467.2 > > > > 2. Travel to Haiti > 2/5/2010 > > > Joe Glover, Provost & Patricia Telles-Irvin, Vice President for Student >Affairs > > >Based on an assessment of risk and on advice from the federal and state >governments, we are adopting the following policy until further notice: >There are to be no UF-sanctioned, -sponsored, or -approved trips for students >to Haiti. >Faculty and staff who wish to travel to Haiti to render assistance, to pursue >research, or to otherwise act in their professional capacities as employees or >representatives of UF must receive prior approval for the trip from Lynn >Frazier, David Sammons, or the Provost. >Faculty and staff who do not receive such approval but who nevertheless choose >to travel to Haiti on unpaid or annual leave should make clear that they are >acting without the approval or sanction of the university and do not represent >the university. > > >I have a hard time reading this and concluding that information gained during >a non-sanctioned, non-sponsored and unapproved trip could not be included in >one's thesis. I read it more along this lines of "cancel the marching band's >trip to Haiti." > > >I went to a lot of libraries to gather the information for my senior seminar, >and university "approval" was never an issue. There is a big difference >between these two sentences: > > >There are to be no UF-sanctioned, -sponsored, or -approved trips for students >to Haiti. > > >and > > >There are to be no trips for UF students to Haiti. > > >UF should respect the difference. > > >-Zeb > > > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words >"REMOVE ME" as the subject. > > >-- >GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >2008 National Football Champions | >Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words >"REMOVE ME" as the subject. > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject. -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gatortalk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
