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On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Badrish <[email protected]> wrote: > Pls come back WWP!!! > > -BadMan > > On 10/14/10, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: >> Oh, yes, I just saw that! He should get back on GT. >> >> Fights occur naturally here every couple of months. It's part of being a >> Gator. >> >> >> >> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >> >> Real Estate Broker >> >> Bob Parks Realty >> >> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd >> >> Gallatin TN 37066 >> >> Phone: 615-826-4040 >> >> Fax: 615-822-2027 >> >> Mobile: 615-972-4239 >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Scott Lucas >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:00 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Would you vote for a >> 16-team playoff? >> >> >> >> The commenter was Woody... I guess he found an outlet since he doesn't post >> on GT anymore. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: Oliver Barry <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 4:03:23 PM >> Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] AJC.com: Would you vote for a 16-team >> playoff? >> >> This is all good and well to debate, but really, who here thinks a playoff >> will happen in the next 10 years? 20 years? >> >> Maybe, maybe it could happen the way Tony Barnhart says here with the first >> 4 team playoff. That would be the humble beginning. That's coming right >> along, in say 30 years? >> >> I like the commenter's remark at the end. Any team could be great one day. >> If Boise St hadn't beaten Oklahoma in 2006 the discussion would be less >> further along than it is. Boise St couldn't hang in the SEC, probably not >> even in the ACC, like they're doing. They had the opportunity to move >> conferences. Where did they go? They left the WAC and went to the Mountain >> West! Don't even tell me they want to be competitive with Oklahoma . It's >> absurd. >> >> >> >> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI >> >> Real Estate Broker >> >> Bob Parks Realty >> >> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd >> >> Gallatin TN 37066 >> >> Phone: 615-826-4040 >> >> Fax: 615-822-2027 >> >> Mobile: 615-972-4239 >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Woody >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [gatornews] AJC.com <http://ajc.com/> : Would you vote for a >> 16-team playoff? >> >> >> >> (ridiculous) >> >> >> Would you vote for a 16-team playoff? >> >> >> 7:51 am October 13, 2010, by Tony Barnhart >> >> I promised myself I would read the book with an open mind and I did. There >> is a lot I don't agree with in the book but Dan Wetzel's "Death to the BCS" >> is required reading for college football fans. >> >> Wetzel's book, which hits the store shelves on Thursday, makes the case >> through exhaustive interviews and research that many of the accepted truths >> about the BCS are simply not true and have been perpetuated by the major >> conferences who want to remain in complete control of post-season football. >> >> Example: That the BCS is "lucrative" because it receives about $125 million >> per year from ESPN to show the games. Wetzel points out through numerous >> interviews that the a 16-team playoff would generate well over $750 million >> per year. So conservatively, he argues, the power structure is willing to >> leave $500 million on the table per year in order to stay in power. >> >> Another example: If the BCS goes away, then the conferences will go back to >> the old bowl system: Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany has suggested that if >> the BCS is forced out of business, the major conferences will simply go back >> to the system of conference tie ins (SEC to Sugar, Big 12 to Fiesta, Big Ten >> to Rose, etc). The Big Ten might be able to afford to do that, but few >> others could. They could not go back to the pre-1998 bowl system because >> they don't have pre-1998 budgets any more. They need more money. >> >> Wetzel says that while the entrenched power structure of the six major >> conferences and the bowls looks like an immovable object, the inevitability >> of a playoff is an irresistible force being created by a new, >> better-informed, internet savvy, generation of college football fans. These >> fans have grown up with more information and more exposure to college >> football than ever before. Wetzel makes the case these fans see every >> institution around them evolving at warp speed while college football stays >> in a system that was created before 24-hour news and sports was available on >> a handheld device. They want more from college football and are empowered to >> demand it. >> >> Wetzel proposes a 16-team playoff to determine the national championship >> with all 11 winners of the Division I-A conferences getting an automatic >> berth with five at-large teams. >> >> Here are his first-round pairings if the tournament had been in place in >> 2009: >> >> No. 16 Troy (Sun Belt) at No. 1 Alabama (SEC) >> >> No. 15 East Carolina (C-USA) at No. 2 Texas (Big 12) >> >> No. 14 Central Michigan (MAC) at No. 3 Cincinnati (Big East) >> >> No. 13 LSU (at-large) at No. 4 TCU (Mountain West) >> >> No. 12 Penn State (at-large) at No. 5 Florida (at-large) >> >> No. 11 Virginia Tech (at-large) at No. 6 Boise State (WAC) >> >> No. 10 Iowa (at-large) at No. 7 Oregon (Pac-10) >> >> No. 9 Georgia Tech (ACC) at No. 8 Ohio State (Big Ten) >> >> A selection committee, not the BCS Standings made up of poll voters and >> computers, would pick the five at-large teams. And Wetzel makes the point >> that the competition for and the speculation about those five at-large slots >> would be riveting in the final month of the season. >> >> The first three rounds of the tournament would be played in the home stadium >> of the highest seed. The championship would be on a neutral site. So the >> competition to be one of the top four seeds, and thus be guaranteed at least >> two home games, would be enormous, Wetzel argues. >> >> Wetzel's position is that the value of having all of the conference >> champions included outweighs the exclusion of a third or fourth team from >> one of the power conferences. It wouldn't cheapen the regular season, he >> argues, because seeding would become so important. Having the little guy >> playing the big guy in his home stadium (Appalachian State at Michigan ) >> would add drama of the first two rounds of the football playoffs similar to >> the NCAA basketball tournament. >> >> Again, it's compelling reading. But here is my rebuttal to just a few of >> these points: >> >> **-I have been involved in college athletics long enough to know that we >> can't get from where we are right now (a two team playoff) to a 16-team >> playoff in just one step. College athletics does not do radical change. The >> NCAA basketball tournament started with eight teams in 1939 and grew in >> increments to its current 68. That is why the next step in the evolution of >> post-season college football in Division I-A will be a four-team playoff. >> >> **-I remain unconvinced that enough presidents want something like this. >> Georgia president Michael Adams put an eight-team playoff on the table in >> 2007 and wasn't able to get a whole lot of support. The presidents I talk to >> just don't want to open up this can of worms. Wetzel, however, believes that >> when the economic reality of a playoff and its value hits schools that are >> already strapped for cash, the presidents will change their minds. He also >> believes that the current power structure keeps the presidents from being >> completely informed on this issue. I don't know about that. There are some >> pretty smart guys and ladies sitting in these president's offices. >> >> **-Using this 16-team format that includes all 11 conference championships, >> teams like Troy (No. 69 in Jeff Sagarin's rankings), East Carolina (No. 51), >> and Central Michigan (No. 42) would have gotten in the tournament. Teams >> like No. 14 Nebraska, No. 15 BYU, No. 16 Pittsburgh, and No. 17 Oklahoma >> would have been left out. >> >> **-College football and basketball are so different. It's one thing to let >> the MAC champion into a 65-team basketball tournament. It's another thing >> entirely to tell a 10-2 SEC team that it didn't get into a 16-team playoff >> because Central Michigan beat Ohio U. on a Friday night in Detroit before >> 23,714 people. The economic difference between Duke and Butler basketball, >> who met for the NCAA championship last April, is not that great. The >> economic difference between Georgia football and football at Central >> Michigan has to be measured in light years. >> >> If you put the best 16 teams in a playoff, some of the big conferences might >> listen. But I can't see them going for a system like this. I could be wrong. >> >> So what do you think? Do you like Wetzel's 16-team playoff? If you were a >> college president, would you vote for it? >> >> >> >> Woody Bass >> >> October 13th, 2010 >> 11:07 am >> >> Oh please. WE DO NOT NEED A PLAYOFF. A playoff doesnt solve the problem >> anymore than the current BCS system does. The PROBLEM is >> the pre-season polls. >> the fact that strength of schedule is determined too early.. >> the fact that every conference SHOULD have a championship game (stupid NCAA >> rule). >> >> The BCS has gotten it right more often than not. And dont give me this crap >> about Boise State . yes.. they are impressive.. but as South Carolina has >> shown. any team can be great on any given day. but can they do so >> consistently? >> >> * >> <http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2010/10/13/would-you-vote-fo >> r-a-16-team-playoff/comment-page-3/#comment-99293> Link >> * >> <http://www.ajc.com/services/content/services/help/blogs/removal.html> >> Report this comment >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> <http://www.gatornet.us/> >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
