It doesn't matter if Cam did it personally or not, if his Dad or a
"handler" or Agent represented his "interests, and Auburn provided
payments or illegal inducements to get him to enroll, they all will be
culpable. Auburn stands to lose the most. The worst that will happen
to Cam is that he will be a 1st round draft choice in this years draft
and an instant millionaire.
Eddie Williamson
On 11/18/2010 3:02 PM, Jay Cicone wrote:
I don't think it matters what Cam did. If his father solicited money,
it's a violation....I think?
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*On Behalf Of *Woody
*Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:57 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
yes. The FBI is investigating.
Yes.. the NCAA is investigating.
But we dont know that they have found anything criminal or corrupt
yet. And youll excuse me for saying.. Fla was once also accused and
charged with just as scandalous of behavior... does that mean UF is
corrupt? Does that mean Bama is corrupt after their incident? The
answer is no obviously... but lets not jump to conclusions about Cam
or Auburn till we know for sure.
There are no facts (so far) that Cam has done anything wrong.
Woody
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Stephen Manuel
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What do you mean no facts ??
We know that MSU alleged that they were approached by people stating
they represented Cam Newton and wanted money for him to sign with MSU.
This has been verified by numerous people.
We know the FBI is involved and have questioned MSU representatives.
We know that Auburn has a long and distinguished history of cheating.
We know that Bobby Lowder and other AU boosters have corrupted the AU
program for a long time.
We know that Lowder's Bank went under.
We know that Auburn Boosters have been arrested for bribing Politicians.
We know that the FBI has wiretapped numerous phones in the
investigation of Lowder and other AU boosters over Bank and Gambling
issues.
I've followed and been involved in recruiting for over 25 years, only
the most diehard Auburn Fan would not believe they are in deep doo doo.
Does anyone honestly believe that MSU was told it will take 100-180K
to get Cam Newton and all of a sudden he signs with Auburn for Free ??
The one thing that will absolutely kill Auburn is if the FBI has
Auburn boosters on tape discussing who/what/when and how Auburn
Players are getting paid.
I'm 99% sure that they do.
I still believe this has the potential to be the biggest scandal in
College Football History.
Stephen Manuel
*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Woody
*Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:30 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING
Tooo much speculation... no facts. Yes.. I agree that where there is
smoke there is fire... but a) we dont know that Cam himself had
anything to do with this. (yet) b) We dont know that Auburn did
anything wrong (yet).
No.. its not looking good IF you go by all the reports. By the way..
some of those reports have also already been refuted (including the so
call confernece call with Meyer and Mullen).. and until these so
called "sources" come to light... its all speculation and its all just
a whole lotta whooey probably over nothing.
Its like I told my Auburn friend the other day.........if Cam did
nothing wrong.. he (and Auburn) has nothing to worry about. End of story.
Woody
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Stephen Manuel
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't post very often but when something comes up that is just to
big and too interesting I want to share it.
I'm sure most are following the Cam Newton Saga, I'll admit I was not
that interested in the story until recently, I have a Nephew that's an
Auburn Grad, I told him based on my experience, it's probably true
that Auburn was buying players. I went on to say, if you hear the FBI
is involved, then you will know for sure it's true and to expect major
probation for Auburn.
Today when I heard that the FBI had interviewed several MSU people
about the play for pay scheme involving Cam Newton, my interest level
went up considerably.
I thought the reason the FBI might get involved is that price
allegedly involved was 100-180 K, that amount of money changing hands
undocumented will get the FBI's interest.
However, I am dumbfounded at that the amount of
information/gossip/rumor out there about this case. Not only is the
FBI involved, but just about every major booster at Auburn is
involved, state politicians are involved, federal indictments are
involved, murder for hire has been mentioned, this case has the
potential to turn into the biggest scandal in College Football History....
I'll give you 4 links and let you judge for yourself, but I warn, make
sure you have a couple of hours to sit down and digest all that's out
there.
From Tigerdroppings.com an LSU website...start here
http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/MessageTopic.asp?p=22778676&Pg=1
<http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/MessageTopic.asp?p=22778676&Pg=1>
TMZ.com about the FBI and Auburn:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/17/cam-newton-fbi-investigation-probe-auburn-university-booster-milton-mcgregor-sec-football-ncaa/
Tuskegee Newspaper article about Lobbyists/Gambling/Bobby Lowder and
Political Corruption
http://www.thetuskegeenews.com/articles/2010/10/21/opinion/doc4cbf59b3eea05796017322.txt
AL.com article about major Auburn Booster linked to Cam Newton getting
indicted, plus murder for hire.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/10/11_alabama_legislators_lobbyis.html
I don't vouch for any of the information, just to say, when there is
this much smoke a HUGE MAJOR fire must be burning somewhere.
Stephen Manuel
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