LOL.  Good perspective, Robert.  Anyone who was around in 1979 has seen the 
worst of the worst.  Everything is better than that year.  ;-)

Cee
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert R. Williams, PLS 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble


  I agree, I've seen worst years in my Gator life and they always get better.

  Go Gators.

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:21 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  One other perspective of this horrible season should be considered from 
Jerry's original question.  He said, "in light of expectations."

  If one considers the loss of two coaches, one of whom garnered incredible 
criticism while in Gainesville, 11 players who went on to play in the NFL, one 
arguably the best college football player in history, the rash of injuries and 
suspensions to "speed" athletes and the infusion of lots of inexperienced 
freshmen and red-shirt freshmen, why would anyone have expected the Gators to 
be eastern division champs before the start of the season?

  Yes, we were led to believe these freshmen were the second coming of the 
legendary four horsemen, but they are still inexperienced freshmen!  Even Tebow 
didn't do that well his freshman season.  

  We really expected too much from this team.  

  Now, can it be fixed?  What would you do, fire Meyer?  

  As he said, he has resurrected 3 football programs in his career.  Would you 
really expect John Brantley to transfer?  Maybe he isn't Cam Newton, but if you 
could just get a decent running back to stay healthy and plan the offense 
around his drop back style he could be a lot more effective.  I know, he played 
lousy yesterday, but the whole team gave up.  Everybody did.  

  I think the coaching staff will be able to fix things with the talent we 
have.  And we the fans need to be more realistic about what to expect from this 
team.  You can't just win it all every year.  Look at Nick Satan!  At the 
beginning of this season he was the answer to college football.  He was the 
supreme commander.  Where is he now?  

  Does anyone here really Gene Chizik will sustain what's happening at Auburn?  
Gus Malzahn won't be able to save him next year when ole Cam is gone.

  Oh yes, we could get rid of Addazio.  And, yes his play calling was 
unimaginative.  But, I wonder if he might stick his neck out a little more on 
game day if Deonte isn't a threat to drop half of what's thrown to him.  He has 
improved greatly this year.  The team will improve in the off season.  The sun 
will come up tomorrow.

  We'll be back on top.

   

  Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 1:25 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  In 16 years of knowing you, Leon, I don't think I've ever heard (seen) you 
use the word "disgusting" in reference to the gators. We're in pretty bad shape.

   

  Randy

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:02 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  I agree with Rob.  And, I think Meyer will turn it around quickly.  If I'm 
wrong, I won't delay calling for his head if we repeat this disgusting level of 
play next year.

   

  A piss off Polyanna is a dangerous thing.
   

  A. Leon Polhill, Gator
  "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

   

   


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  From: Rob Alexander <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sun, November 28, 2010 12:20:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

  Hah!  I hear ya, but even in the Doug Dickey years, when there was no 
expectation of ever really being a contender, it seemed best to say 'wait 'till 
next year'. Saying wait 'till next decade just sounds too pathetic.  J  
Seriously, though, we have so much talent on this team that I believe we 
actually can turn it around in a single year if Meyer makes the right decisions 
on coaching and player personnel. Whether he will or not remains to be seen, 
but the talent is there just waiting for the right coaches to develop it. With 
that, and a good game-day OC who can actually call a game, we could be back in 
the hunt next year. On the other hand, if Meyer goes all stubborn on us and 
leaves the coaching team intact, then we may as well get used to this feeling. 
I think it would take another full year like this before Foley would get 
involved.

   

  Rob

   

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 8:27 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  Wait until NEXT year? After seeing what I saw yesterday, I'm hoping we can 
regroup by 2015. L

   

  Randy

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Cecilia
  Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:27 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

   

  Amen, Brutha Woody!

   

  There's no point in knocking each other in the head at this point.  Our team 
sucked pretty badly this year, and the coaching certainly hasn't been equal to 
our expectations.  We're back to the old maxim most of us have faced for many 
of our years of Gator fandom:  Wait 'til next year.  :-/

   

  Cee 

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Woody Bass 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:07 PM

    Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble

     

    oh everyone Chill out.  Theres nothing wrong with being hopeful and 
realistic and your all making good points (coaching and refs). 

     

    we just have to move on from here.  After the first few games... I dont 
think this is really a surprise to any of us (atleast it shouldnt be)

     

     

    On Nov 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Steve McKibben wrote:

     

          Try injecting a little reading comprehension.

          Guess what? You're not the only one smart enough to see how bad we 
are.

          Excuse me for taking a hopeful wait and see attitude when the season 
was still young.



          --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Scott Lucas <[email protected]> wrote:


          From: Scott Lucas <[email protected]>
          Subject: Re: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble
          To: "Gator Talk" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
          Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:55 PM

                Thank you, John for injecting some reality into this list...

                Face it, we are just not very good. And as much as many don't 
want to admit it, it has a LOT to do with coaching.

                Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
               

           


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          From: John Bowers <[email protected]>; 
          To: <[email protected]>; 
          Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Fumble 
          Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:52:39 AM 

                You saw the wacky bunch that was wearing orange and blue, and 
you're putting a modicum of blame on the....refs?


                 

                From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben
                Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:15 PM
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Fumble


                 

                      Don't put anything past a crew that;

                      Called a facemask penalty against Black where the helmet 
was moved but the facemask wasn't touched, then;

                      Failed to call anything under the exact same 
circumstances when the same thing happened to Rainey on the play where he 
fumbled, then;

                      Since we were so bad that their help wasn't needed to 
steal the game from us, still had to get one last shot in when we'd stopped fsu 
with two minutes remaining, by making up a penalty never called before in the 
history of the game - "roughing the snapper".

                      --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Stacey Hartley-McBride 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                      Didn't the ref blow the play dead, thereby negating any 
action after the whistle, like the fumble?
                     

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