Yes. This is where we are. Hoping. Caring. About to beat somebody. It's great to be a Florida Gator!
A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:52 PM, Jay Cicone <[email protected]> wrote: > > >For those of you who are age impaired, that spitting guy at FSU was our DC >under Charlie Pell. Mickey didn’t like the kids to know that and toward the >end of his career the players weren’t even born during his UF stint. > >From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of John Bowers >Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:41 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [gatortalk] The direction of Gator Football > >I think Bianchi said a few months ago that there’s no way the Gators made a >huge mistake with Muschamp. A few years ago the SEC was all about defense, >and WM went real conservative on offense because of that. Then suddenly with >the great QBs in the SEC in the last two years, offenses took off and we were >stuck with Weis and Brent Pease. And then we had all the injuries last year. >Don’t forget how many people last year said if Driskel gets hurt, goodbye >Gators. > >Like Steve said, the pecking order in the SEC never remains constant. No team >in this conference can win big every year. Every team had a losing season >more recently than we did last year. > >I think the carousel of assistant coaches has been a HUGE problem for the >Gators in recent years. Isn’t it true that Andre Debose has had *six* >different OCs in his six years? And probably nearly as many DCs. I don’t >know the answer to that, but somehow we need to get lucky or good with some >assistant coach stability. Dan Mullen, Charlie Strong, Dan Quinn. Came and >went. One reason FSU had such great defenses year after year in the Bowden >days was because that old guy who spit all the time was there as DC for like >25 years. It’s not just the head coach, y’all, it’s the assistants too. > >It’s college football. It gets weird sometimes. USC, Va Tech, SoCar. Look >at them. You have great games and stinkers. Every game is its own game. >We’ll probably lose Saturday, but it’s football season! It’s not July >anymore. YAY!! Go Coach Dawg. Go Gators. Let’s try to enjoy it and be >positive. > > > >From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of Sandy Alonso >Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:03 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [gatortalk] The direction of Gator Football > >What was so frustrating for me in the Zook years was that the talent was very >much there, but the playcalling was outstandingly bone-headed. Zook never >really had control of the players, thus all the off-field foolishness that >went with that era. I never had any faith in Z even if I was impressed with >his ability to recruit. >With Muschamp, he made some bad choices for OC and also prevented those >offenses from being anything more than dreadfully conservative to the point of >being dysfunctional. However, I still think, like Steve, that there is a >great coach there who has finally seen the light. Perhaps I'll be proven >wrong, but I at least like what Roper is trying to do (the plays are there, >even if they're not always executed by the players) and WM has certainly been >proven on the defensive side, so I believe that side will also only get better >as the season progresses. > >On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Ed Williamson <[email protected]> >wrote: >Steve, Th anks for this well written and reasonable post. I do agree with >it. Because of the dumpster fire Meyer left us and the incredible run of >injuries last year, (and losing 5 of 11 starters from last years defense to >the NFL), we do need to be more realistic and patient for this team to gain >experience and toughness. Go Gators!!!! > >Ed > > >On 9/16/2014 10:51 AM, 'Steve McKibben' via GatorTalk wrote: >Champ's first season was pretty much what I expected given the dumpster fire >Meyer left him with, in terms of talent, team chemistry, and some heavy >entitlement issues from some of the players. >> >>The 11-2 season that followed seemed to take everyone by surprise as it was >>"ahead of schedule" but among those wins there were a number of games that >>were much closer than most of us would have expected or liked. Suffocating >>defense but an often dysfunctional offense. >> >>Last year the roof caved in. Losses to the NFL were compounded by an >>astounding run of bad luck injury wise. We were on the brink. >> >>Fast forward to today. We're 2-0, but not a happy 2-0. One game canceled (can >>this program catch a freaking break?), a blowout win against a cupcake (which >>by the way, we seem to have taken for granted very quickly after not seeing >>that for several years), and a 3 OT squeaker against lowly Kentucky. >> >>This guy has to go, right? Not so fast... >> >>Why does his "leash" extend beyond the next two games in my book?; >> >>To my untrained eye, the "thug factor" appears to be on the wane, and I >>believe the GPD/UPD arrest blotter bears that out. >> >>The SEC pecking order never remains constant. It was incredulous to lose to >>Vandy last year, but they went to bowl games three years in a row, so the >>mighty Gators weren't the only team that they beat that they didn't compete >>against historically. Maybe it's Kentucky's turn to step up. By all accounts >>Stoops has recruited better there than they have seen in a while. Some of the >>passes completed against our secondary looked impossible to defend. Maybe >>they aren't so bad that beating them in a close contest is all that bad. We >>will see. >> >>For a team coming off of a 4-8 season, and that has looked like crap on >>offense since Tebow moved on (and really even most of his senior year after >>the concussion), we have a lot of very highly rated recruits interested in >>us. The only reason more of them haven't committed already is that they hear >>that Champ is a goner, and they (understandably) want to see this offensive >>improvement first hand before they are "all in". >> >>Hey Jerry - even if we only beat Vandy and EKU we will be 4-7 and that's >>better than 4-8, right? ;) >> >>I don't see any invincible teams this year, and even the top tier SEC east >>teams have shown they have some weaknesses. >> >>To me, how we play, even if we lose the next two is more important than if we >>win. Saying that, unless we are decimated by injuries in the Bama game I >>think we beat the Vawls handily. >> >>I may be proven wrong, but I think Champ will be an outstanding coach. He is >>in a battle against time due to his learning curve, as well as some >>unfortunate luck, to be that coach at UF. >> >>On a side note - I'm glad to see that, so far at least, the polarization and >>ugliness that we had on GatorTalk during the Zook years hasn't resurfaced. >>Maybe we've all grown up a bit, or maybe we ran all of the passionate posters >>off! ;) >> >>Steve McKibben >> >> >>________________________________ >> >> >>I did not propose anything. Muschamp has been here four years and we are >>struggling against Kentucky? I know it is early. However, if we played >>like we did Saturday, we might end up with a worse record than last year. >>Vandy and Eastern Kentucky are our only probable wins. We might squeak by >>Tennessee as well. >>>>> >>>>>I have watched at least a half from the rest of the teams this year except >>>>>of F$U. All of them appear to be much better than we are. >>>>> >>>>>The truth be known, I am more worried about our program than I have been >>>>>ever before. >>>>> >>>>>Jerry >>>>> >>>>>From: Oliver Barry <[email protected]> >>>>>Reply-To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> >>>>>Date: Monday, September 15, 2014 at 12:00 PM >>>>>To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> >>>>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] The direction of Gator Football >>>>> >>We play one SEC game and you’re proposing this? >>That doesn’t even make sense. Even Zook got the Mississippi State game. >> >>Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI >>Bob Parks Realty, LLC >>Real Estate Broker >>145 Maple Row Blvd >>Hendersonville TN 37075 >>Phone: 615-826-4040 >>Mobile: 615-972-4239 >>[email protected] >> >>From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>Of Arthur Polhill >>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:43 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] The direction of Gator Football >> >>Possibly, Doc. But not during a week we are leading the SEC East. >>A. Leon Polhill, Gator >> >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: Jerry D. Belloit <[email protected]>; >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>Subject: [gatortalk] The direction of Gator Football >>Sent: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 11:01:22 PM >> >> >> >>After watching the game last night, I was reminded of last season and of >>Dark days of Gator football dating back to those days that Vince Dooley >>had our number. I had thought that I was forever finished with the old, >>³Wait until next year.² I had some reasonable hopes for this year. Last >>night, the only team in the SEC we could have beaten would be Vandy. >> >>I thought our defense would be much better. (Did our linebackers play?) >>I knew that our offense would be a work in progress but I was blind-sided >>by our defensive problems. I was counting on our defense to keep up in >>the game until our new offense began to gel. After last night, that would >>appear to be a pipe dream. >> >>Two years ago, I expected Coach Muschamp to be an upper level coach. >>After four years, I am afraid that he may be another Ron Zook. We seem to >>be a long way from competing with South Carolina, Georgia, Auburn, Texas >>A7M, LSU, and Alabama. >> >>Is it time for a new coach? >> >>Jerry >> >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >>2008 National Football Champions | >>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), >>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >>--- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"GatorTalk" group. >>To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>email to [email protected]. >>For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>-- >>-- >>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 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