I dunno who that Woody guy I'd but he asks great questions On Dec 13, 2014 5:46 PM, "Shane Ford" <[email protected]> wrote:
> <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/> > December 13th, 2014 09:00am > Zach’s Mail Stack 12/13 > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/> > > by Zach Abolverdi > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/author/abolverdiz/> > > (Gainesville SUN) > > > > > After a busy few days last week and the Muschamp story last night, the > Mail Stack returns. > > Sorry I’ve keep you all anxiously waiting, but when news breaks about > coaching hires, that takes precedence. > > It’s been an eventful 10 days with Jim McElwain taking over at Florida, > and that’s great for UF recruiting after three weeks of being in a holding > pattern. > > On to the questions! > > *Given the amount of time that offensive line coach Mike Summers and > recruiting ace T-Rob have spent with Coach McElwain on the road, is it safe > to say both are probably going to be retained? Have any candidates surfaced > for the OC and DC jobs?* — *Ken Eats Gainesville, @JacobHunter86* > > Early Friday night it appeared Robinson was likely to remain in > Gainesville, as I reported > <http://forum.gatorsports.com/topic/32487-travaris-robinson-note/>, and > McElwain > told a junior college offensive lineman > <https://twitter.com/ZachAbolverdi/status/543446092604784641> Summers is > being retained. > > I don’t anticipate anything changing with Summers, but Robinson is a > different story. With Will Muschamp taking the defensive coordinator > position at Auburn, it could throw a wrench in the works with Robinson and > UF. > > As I mentioned in my post about Robinson, Auburn is his alma mater and > where he started coaching. 247 reports that he’s expected to join Muschamp > there. > > The Tigers will have to pay if they want Robinson, who currently makes > $510,000 at Florida, but he’s well worth it. I think UF should try to give > him another raise, but sometimes loyalty is greater than money. > > There’s a chance that D.J. Durkin could stay on as defensive coordinator, > and former Alabama offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier is one of the > leading candidates for the Florida position. > > *What does or can Coach Mac do to counter the negativity when talking to > recruits?*— *Woody* > > Good question, because obviously there has been a lot of negativity — > uncertainty more than anything — surrounding the football program. > > One pitch he has used is telling recruits that the main reasons they’ve > had for liking Florida are still there. > > The campus life, education, SEC competition, national exposure and NFL > opportunity hasn’t changed. He’ll eventually announce the current > assistants who will be retained, and he’ll proclaim that the new coaches > coming in are “top of the line,” so to speak. > > The only thing essentially changing with McElwain, he says, is the > offense. He maintains it will be fixed, the defense will continue to > dominate and all the factors that make UF a great school remain in tact. > > To McElwain’s credit, the latter part of his message is true. He’ll have > to sell the rest of it based on his offensive track record and the > defensive players (and possible coaches) he inherits. > > *Mac has been putting in the work. What recruits do you think will commit > or flip soon?* — *@KruzanJr_* > > The JUCO lineman who revealed the news about Summers is Brandon Pertile. > He’s committed to Oklahoma State but officially visiting Florida this > weekend. > > The 6-foot-6, 300-pounder attends Mesa C.C. in Arizona but played for > Clearwater Countryside in high school. If Pertile enjoys his trip to UF, he > could flip to the in-state Gators and sign with them Wednesday. > > Tight end Daniel Imatorbhebhe will probably be the first prep prospect who > pops for McElwain. He had a great visit Tuesday night > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19682/imatorbhebhe-gets-birthday-visit-from-mcelwain/> > with > him and his brother, and now Imatorbhebhe is down to Cal and Florida. > > He’s an early enrollee and wants to decide soon. > > *Which highly rated uncommitted prospect do we have the best chance at > signing?* —* @McFly_22, @vhcombs, @scharf15, @NickStow15* > > It’s too early in the coaching transition for me to confidently predict > something like this, but I feel good about Florida’s chances with five-star > defensive end CeCe Jefferson. > > He spoke highly of McElwain > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19648/recruits-react-to-mcelwain-hire/> > when > he was hired, his father is a die-hard Gator fan and his family lives a > half hour from Gainesville. Jefferson also previously stated he could end > up coming to UF regardless of what the coaching situation is. > > That being said, he’s very close to Durkin, Robinson and defensive line > coach Brad Lawing > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19633/jefferson-hosts-three-uf-coaches-on-in-home-visit/?tc=ar>. > If any or all of those coaches leave, it will undoubtedly make things > harder for McElwain to land Jefferson. > > But if I had to bet on which five-star recruit Florida will most likely > get out of Jefferson, Byron Cowart and Martez Ivey, I’d go with Jefferson. > > *Can you list recruits that Coach Mac is re-engaging/visiting even though > they have committed elsewhere?*— *@Commando074, @DevinLamarr, @tedsmall, > Bob, @Splash_Boi_Jike, @justiwood, @gatorskin77, @UFgatorsforlife , > @Peoples_Champ03* > > McElwain visited at least 10 recruits committed elsewhere this week. For > the list of his visits, click here > <http://forum.gatorsports.com/topic/32442-mcelwain-recruiting-visits-this-week/> > . > > He appears to have made the most progress with Florida State quarterback > commit Deondre Francois and Miami running back commit Jordan Scarlett. > > Both have decided to officially visit UF in January after the dead period > ends (Jan. 14). Florida is now a legitimate option for Francois, according > to sources close to him. > > UF was the third offer for Francois and he grew up a Gator fan. However, > he wants to play for an offensive-minded head coach and Muschamp didn’t fit > the bill. With McElwain now on the job, that changes things. > > He also prefers to go to somewhere that’s not crowded at quarterback. When > Francois went through his recruitment in the spring and summer, he wasn’t > looking at schools that already had a QB commit. It wasn’t until an Elite > 11 regional competition against De’Andre Johnson that Francois started > considering Florida State because he outperformed the FSU pledge. > > But with the Seminoles having two other quarterbacks in their class (Kai > Locksley) and UF expected to return just Treon Harris and Will Grier next > year, the Gators’ depth chart might look more appealing to Francois. > However, a potential flip will likely hinge on how well his visit goes next > month and what kind of relationship he builds with McElwain. > > Many of you asked what Florida’s chances are with Tampa recruits Ray-Ray > McCloud III and Auden Tate. > > With McCloud deciding not enroll early at Clemson, that gives the Gators > more time to recruit him. I don’t think he delayed his enrollment solely > because of Tuesday’s visit from McElwain, but it could’ve had an influence. > Still, UF has a better shot of flipping of Scarlett at this point than > McCloud. > > Tate plans to take an official visit to Florida in January, but he and > fellow Tampa area receiver George Campbell seem solid to FSU. > > *Has or is Coach Mac making an effort to reel back in the commits we just > lost?* — *Bob* > > Not to my knowledge. > > Neither of them of called a UF coach before they decommitted, nor did they > wait to talk to McElwain, which I’m sure rubbed him the wrong way. > > Offensive lineman George Brown, despite his comment after Muschamp got > fired > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19537/recruits-hit-hard-by-muschamp-firing/>, > didn’t act like a strong commit with trips taken to Mississippi State and > LSU, the school he flipped to last weekend. Summers staying helps the > Gators with Brown, but they may not be willing to hear him out if he starts > reconsidering them. > > Jones backed off his pledge less than a hour after McElwain’s introductory > press conference ended. It felt like he watched it, decided he didn’t like > the guy and immediately decommitted. Jones said he had to do what’s best > for him, and I think he didn’t see himself as a fit in McElwain’s offense. > > Florida could continue recruiting them, but it’s hard to pursue kids — > especially from Cali and Ohio — who don’t want to be at your school. > > *What’s the LB board look like? Is Jeff Holland, Adonis Thomas and Te’Von > Coney still possible? — **@DevinLamarr, @mevansfl* > > UF is still after Thomas and visited him Wednesday, but he’s locked in to > Alabama and has favored the school for a while. Another linebacker from > Georgia, Roquan Smith, is heavily leaning toward the in-state Bulldogs > right now and visits them this weekend. > > Florida’s best shot at an elite linebacker remains Holland, though > Muschamp going to Auburn makes the Tigers an even bigger threat. In > addition to Coney, a Notre Dame commit, McElwain is also trying to flip > Derrick Graham (Arkansas) and Charles Perry (Miami). > > *How many signees do we need to make this a respectable first class for > coach McElwain?*— *@tdirby12, @SFosser* > > I don’t anticipate him filling all the scholarships he has available, > which is currently 24 and growing. Signing a full class of 25 would be > ideal for McElwain, but he won’t reach on some kids just get the numbers up. > > I’d say 21 signees would be a respectable class. That’s the triple the > number of commits UF has now, and adding 14 more members at positions of > need with a few top-100 recruits included would be a job well done. > > The staff hires coming up and the last two weeks of the contact period in > January will be key to McElwain closing out strong. > > That’s all for this week! Be sure to leave your questions for the next > mailbag in the comment section below. > > > > COMMENTS > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/feed/> > > 16 Comments > > 1. December 13th, 2014 9:16 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44902> > > Wow, a lot going on and more uncertainty with T-Rob leaving. What is > Coach Mac’s track record as a recruiter and should we be optimistic, not > just about his efforts, but the intended results? > > Go Gators! > > by Patrick > > 2. December 13th, 2014 9:21 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44904> > > He was rated as a top 20 recruiter by rivals when at bama. Again this > T-Rob stuff overblown by some in the gainesville media. No way do you pay > him more than 500k as a position coach. T-Rob has missed out on many > recruits and we have a solid seconday for next few years with what is in > place > > by Stan > > 3. December 13th, 2014 9:27 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44905> > > We have a good defense coming back next year so Macs influence on > offense is important. Winning changes everything. This class may not turn > out very good but but our future is brighter with this coach than it has > been in 6 years. > > by Homer J > > 4. December 13th, 2014 10:00 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44907> > > Someone tweeted TRob is at UF practice this morning. Seems like he may > stay. Long-range, doesn’t matter a lot. Mac will build a really good staff > that balances the priorities on offense and defense. His track record at > Bama and Colorado State includes amazing privation from RBs, receivers , > quarterbacks who play smartly and efficiently. And big time OL such as > Martez Ivey. I think we land Ivey, Jefferson and Holland, hopefully another > top prospect or two. Next recruiting year will be much better. > > by Gatormac > > 5. December 13th, 2014 10:09 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44908> > > I wish the chicken littles would just stop, unless it is officially > announced that T Rob is leaving he works fo UF. > > by MSGator > > 6. December 13th, 2014 10:10 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44909> > > *for > > by MSGator > > 7. December 13th, 2014 10:20 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44910> > > Gatormac-I hope thats the case w/ TRob. I really feel that if he > leaves then most recruits will immediately drop UF from consideration. I > don’t agree with Zach about the Cali/Ohio thing. I mean if Brown chose > lsu-which is quite far-why would that be a problem to come to UF? Lets hope > this doesn’t deter them from picking UF & maybe the news of a better > offense can help. GO GATORS!! > > by Baton Rouge Gator Fan (BRGF) > > 8. December 13th, 2014 10:44 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44911> > > Much bigger concerns than losing a seconday coach > > by Stan > > 9. December 13th, 2014 10:47 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44912> > > It seems like someone, if they are an early enrollee, needs to > announce this week that he’s coming to UF. There’s only a couple of more > days ft that coaches can initiate contact, then there’s a month long period > where only the recruit can make contact. It would seem to be important that > UF gets someone, anyone to say yes this week. A month is a long time to > have a terrible class still sitting around without more that a rumor that > it will get better. Another reason to be optimistic about the chances with > Francois is that FSU also has a pledge from a mega recruit, Malik Henry, > for 2016. I personally think that the best players don’t worry about the > depth chart, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high. > > by ntcrze > > 10. December 13th, 2014 11:05 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44913> > > How bout Devon Robinson?? Guy looked awesome last night > > by Stan > > 11. December 13th, 2014 11:11 am > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44914> > > I don’t want T-Rob to go but if he does I’m not loosing any sleep over > it..Short term it might hurt but coach Mac is stuck trying to fix the mess > the former coach left behind anyway..I am thinking long term and if coach > Mac could get just a few great pieces and win like I feel he will do, we > will be fine..There are more great position coaches out there that can > recruit and this is Florida..This place has made so many coaches careers > and the next young gun is chomping at the bit to get his chance here.. > > by Gator Guy > > 12. December 13th, 2014 12:51 pm > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44918> > > Baton Rouge… the Cali/Ohio distance Zach refers to has nothing to do > with the kid flipping to LSU and still being far from home, but everything > to do with Coach Mac seeing as many recruits as possible. No need to travel > to California to re-recruit a kid who didn’t even have the respect to speak > with him before decommitting, when he can use the same time to visit three > or four kids in the southeast that may want to be Gators. Time is limited, > let’s not waste it on long plane rides. > > by WhoGator > > 13. December 13th, 2014 12:56 pm > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44919> > > narcissism is a wonderful thing. we gators have it in large doses, > myself included. rule #1 is sooner or later the narcissist is gonna get mad > – really mad, and we have some there already. for me to get there its going > to require a lot more than whatever is upsetting people today. rule #2 is > narcissist love a good ego feeding. after a while spurrier and some of the > other coaches got tired of that aspect of the job, my vote is its being > Christmas lets either feed our egos somewhere else for a while or better > yet be more non narcissistic for a while. rule #3 is when they are flying > high narcissists are a lot of fun but of course they get too high and burn > their wings off. so when things get better and they will, lets not get too > crazy, lets just have fun. rule #4 is that the whole process matters even > though narcissists just hone in one thing. Zach your in a bad spot here as > you are on the front edge of the process and everyone forgets there is a > lot more than just what you cover. > > by mveal2006 > > 14. December 13th, 2014 1:57 pm > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44921> > > TO THE RECRUITS READING THIS, uncertainty is a part of life, and it’s > a challenge you’ll face the rest of your life. At UF, Coach McElwain has > moved in and at least you’ll have the comfort in knowing he is going to be > a HUGE stabilizing foce to UF Football. > > Come Srping time, all of this uncertainty will be well behind UF and > you the recruits, and life will be going on as usual. > > Be part of something special, tell your families and friends you > decided to make a difference somewhere. > > It’s about Faith and belief in yourselves. > > by Gator Todd > > 15. December 13th, 2014 2:33 pm > > <http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/19692/zachs-mail-stack-1213-3/#comment-44922> > > Great insight, WhoGator. I can see your point. It’s gonna be hard to > get any guys to commit until the all star games. Us fans will have to wait > it out to see where the chips fall. GO GATORS!! > > by Baton Rouge Gator Fan (BRGF) > > 16. 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