I'm just trying to see who you would have picked, because nobody that I guess I'd have considered an elite seemed to be available or lure-able. I've said on here that I was on the Archie Miller bandwagon for sure but I don't think you'd have considered him an elite either. Certainly White wasn't on my radar at all, so yeah, I'm a bit surprised, but the reaction nationally has been really good.
I think the reason you didn't see an NFL coach is because of our fan base. We were spoiled by the HBC and his exciting offenses. Even when they didn't win a game, you always felt something might happen, mostly because Spurrier would basically do just about everything and anything. One of the biggest gripes - even during the Meyer years when UF was winning - was how "boring" the offense was. Most NFL coaches would pretty much have the same Muschamp philosophy of ball control and defense, although maybe not to the incompetent extreme on the offensive side. There was no way Chip Kelly was coming to UF, for example. As for Zeb's point about Sloan, that is true - I was mostly referring to the coaches currently on staff that are successful, though I did note Spurrier. Sloan was somewhat successful after coming back; took him 7 seasons to get to the Tournament (Sweet 16); he followed that with a 2nd round appearance and 1st round appearance in his next (last two) seasons. His Gators also won our first SEC Championship in his final season of '88-'89. Of course the Sweet 16 appearance and 2nd round appearances were both vacated due to Vernon Maxwell being ineligible. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, you’ve got me there, Sandy. I don’t know. But, I would have > probably have picked someone who has been to the tournament before. > > I’m not even saying Foley has done a bad job. But, for a program as > important as the football team I sure wouldn’t have picked Muschamp. > > Remember everyone’s reaction to him? Who? > > Lots of people are saying this new guy is a home run. Maybe he will be. > > Was there no NBA coach? Was there no Sweet 16 coach available? > > Was there no NFL coach available when McElwain was hired? > > Saban sure was. > > > > > > Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI > > Bob Parks Realty, LLC > > Real Estate Broker > > 145 Maple Row Blvd > > Hendersonville TN 37075 > > Phone: 615-826-4040 > > Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > [email protected] > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Sandy Alonso > *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 2:47 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Foley gets his > guy > > > > I knew you didn't mean "the" Roy Williams, I was just stating I'm no fan > of the guy (because I seriously am not). That being said, what elite coach > would you have tapped for the UF job? Who could we realistically get, > knowing that no matter what, basketball will always play second fiddle to > the football program? (And it's not just because of butts in seats - just > look at the Gator fan sites that get more hits and comments about football > than basketball.) In a perfect world, we'd have snagged Shaka Smart, and I > think most Gator fans would love that, but he's not really "elite" either. > > Not even sure who we really could have taken for football (since once > again, UTx took our best coach for the position *shakes fist at Austin*). > > I remember there were actually people who made faces when it was announced > Spurrier was coming to UF ("he only won at Duke"). Almost nobody knew who > Billy D was when Foley brought him over from Marshall. And you can't say > UF didn't have ANY program then, because they'd been to the Final Four > under Kruger. > > Who was Rhonda Faehn before she came to UF? Just an assistant at > Nebraska, a program that still doesn't have a national title. The project > I hope Foley hires is one of Faehn's assistant coaches. Hell, I'd love it > if he made them co-HCs, because they have a significant amount to do with > the program's success and I think they'd continue Faehn's philosophy for > the program. > > > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, yes. That’s one thing I don’t get. Like I said, we should have > picked up a Roy Williams (not the Roy Williams, Sandy). We should have > picked up a Nick Saban for football. > > I wouldn’t say Saban brought any baggage, or any boring games. > > Instead, the elite program of the SEC gets two “potential” great guys. > > Whether he is or not, McElwain should look like the second coming of Knute > Rockne with this team. The talent is there. All they need is someone with > an actual plan for offense. > > Muschamp should be ashamed for throwing away the career of Jeff Driskel. > > At any rate, if we’re elite, let’s go get an elite coach. > > I can’t wait to see who the project is Jeremy brings in for the three time > national champion gymnastics team. > > > > All this grousing aside, I will be firmly supportive of our coaches, > whoever they are. > > > > > > Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI > > Bob Parks Realty, LLC > > Real Estate Broker > > 145 Maple Row Blvd > > Hendersonville TN 37075 > > Phone: 615-826-4040 > > Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > [email protected] > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *John Bowers > *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 11:13 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Foley gets his > guy > > > > I also think that “only” paying $2 mill a year was a factor. White is > young, obviously talented, a Florida native, and plays “uptempo” hoops. > Jeremy had a tough decision, he went with what he thinks is correct. With > all Jeremy has done for UF, we need to get behind the new guy. And the new > football guy, too, whatever his name is. Heh heh…. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Sandy Alonso > *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 11:04 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Foley gets his > guy > > > > I respectfully disagree. Besides the fact that I am no fan of Roy > Williams, a lot of those guys will cost a ton of money and bring along > baggage or a boring style of play. > > I was on the Archie Miller bandwagon, but the basketball talking heads are > gushing so much about this guy, that I'm starting to really warm up to this > hire. > > > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, mail.bobparks.com <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'm not impressed. If Florida is an elite program we should get an elite > coach. A Roy Williams, not another project. > > Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI, SFR > > Real Estate Broker > > Bob Parks, LLC > > 145 Maple Row Blvd > > Hendersonville TN 37075 > > Mobile: 615-972-4239 > > Office: 615-826-4040 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Shane Ford <[email protected]> > *Date:* May 8, 2015 at 7:06:15 AM CDT > *To:* GatorNews <[email protected]> > *Subject:* *[gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Foley gets his guy* > *Reply-To:* [email protected] > > Dooley: Foley gets his guy > > > > Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley was pumped up after hiring Mike > White on Thursday. (The Associated Press) > > > *By Pat Dooley > <http://www.gatorsports.com/personalia/patdooley>Gainesville SUN Columnist* > *Published: Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 10:06 p.m.**Last Modified: Thursday, > May 7, 2015 at 10:55 p.m.* > > It was Monday morning and Jeremy Foley was choked up. He was saying > goodbye to Billy Donovan, his close friend and best hire as Florida's > athletic director. > > On Monday afternoon, Foley made a phone call that would shape the > immediate future of Florida basketball. He dialed up Tommy McClelland, the > young athletic director at Louisiana Tech, to let him know he wanted to > talk to McClelland's basketball coach. > > On Thursday, Foley was pumped up. > > He had hired the coach to replace the irreplaceable. > > “You're gonna love him,” Foley told me Thursday night. “I know this > happened fast, but he blew us away.” > > Mike White, 38, fits all the parameters of a Foley hire. He's young, he > has a great personality, he has had success but not so much that Florida > had to pay ridiculous money to get him here. Foley has a track record of > rewarding coaches who do well here, not somewhere else. > > The hiring of White happened so fast it caught a lot of people by > surprise. The surprise wasn't that they hired him, but that they hired him > so quickly. > > But you have to understand this — once coach Scott Brooks was fired by > Oklahoma City, Foley and his staff prepared for the worst-case scenario. > They started looking for a new coach before Donovan was even talking to > Thunder general manager Sam Presti. > > That's what you do when you are an athletic director. You don't wait until > the bomb drops, you start moving when you hear the planes overhead. > > “Our antennae were up,” Foley said. > > And the one guy they kept picking up on the radar was White, who might > well be the next big thing in college basketball. He is energetic and knows > the state of Florida. His team plays fast-tempo basketball, which was > crucial for Foley to find. > > After 19 years of Billyball, nobody wanted to see Deflategate, > basketball-style. > > Then there is this — White and Louisiana Tech have been to the NIT three > straight years. That shouldn't excite anyone, but if you are at Louisiana > Tech you had better win your conference tournament if you want to dance. > > I could mention this — he turned down Tennessee and has already won at > Florida State. > > Now you're warming up to the guy. > > Or this — Florida basically traded Jeff Driskel for Mike White. > > Point, Florida. > > But these are all trivial points that pale in comparison to the biggest > one. Just like it was the right time for Donovan in his career to leave > Florida, it was the right time for White in his career to come to Florida. > > Time will tell if this was a good hire. It makes a lot of sense. There > were other coaches on speculative checklists, but most of them were > bloggers' dreams. Foley knew who he wanted, vetted him and went after him. > > Certainly, this is now an athletic director with two new coaches with > limited track records in the sports that matter most. If nothing else, it > makes the coming years around here really interesting. > > The bottom line is that a new era has begun for Florida basketball. It has > been so long since one started, it's difficult to remember when it did. > Here's a clue — Michael White was a sophomore point guard at Ole Miss when > Donovan started his career as UF's coach. > > Now, White takes over an elite program, one that Donovan started building > when White was trying to find a way to beat the Gators as a player. > > Now, White's their guy. > > Now, he has the chance of a lifetime. > > There have been a lot more splashy hires in the SEC over the last two > years. Bruce Pearl, Rick Barnes, Ben Howland. > > This hire had much less splash. But what matters are the ripples. > > *Contact Pat Dooley at 352-374-5053 <352-374-5053> or > at [email protected] <[email protected]>. 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