Thanks for the explanation, Sandy. I feel smarter for having read this. Helen
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Sandy Alonso <[email protected]> wrote: > > Elite and NCAA can be very different from everything to the maximum > difficulty of routines to the scoring system. > > The short and sweet version is that a routine in Elite (say, bars) gets a > maximum difficulty applied to it based on the elements of the routine, with a > handful of elements being required for each bars routine. You'll see on bars > in Elite a ton more release moves, for example. Elements are rated from A > (easy) to J (only the Biles triple-double on floor is rated a J) and there's > a max number of points based on how hard they are. If a gymnast completes > all those elements, then there are deductions taken for flaws in execution, > which resuts in a final score. In Elite, any score in the 14+ range is > super-good. (It probably means you started at 15+ and only had about 1 to 1 > 1/2 points' worth of deductions, so you had a hard routine and did it fairly > well.) > > In the NCAA, there are a number of required elements for each apparatus, but > a routine can be super hard (Rachel Gowey & Alyssa Baumann are two with very > difficult elements on beam) or meet the required elements. The most you can > get with required elements is a 10. So there is no "bonus" for doing really > hard elements. In fact, it can work against you because NCAA is more about > consistency than difficulty. They've tried to change that up a bit recently > by making a very common vault a 9.95 max score (since almost everyone was > acing it), which is now encouraging harder vaults with a 10 start. > > If you saw Saturday's coverage, you might have seen Trinity Thomas' floor > routine. This was much different than her NCAA routine, not just because of > some added requirements (they all have to do some kind of pirouette routine) > and more leaps/less dance, but you probably saw that first tumbling pass > where she attempted a different element called the Biles (not the > triple-double) and rotated short. She does not do a tumble element quite > that difficult in NCAA. Because there's no reward; a fall on a single > element penalizes you more in NCAA than Elite. > > This is why you'll see more falls and errors in Elite and less inconsistency > in NCAA (among the better teams). It's better to be "perfect" in NCAA. I > think that's why NCAA looks prettier to the more casual observer. > > In Elite, they typically do not compete as often (or in such a short time > frame) as NCAA. But when they do compete, their routines are going to take > longer and have more exhausting elements. > >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 3:34 PM Stompin' Gator <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've been kind of spoiled by the SEC Network's gymnastics coverage in which >> there is almost non-stop action. NBC seems to want to focus on a just a few >> athletes and not even acknowledge the existence of others. I guess they are >> ramping up to the Olympics and want to start focusing on the ones they >> believe will be there. It's all about the star power, I guess. >> >> I'm aware that the level of difficulty is greater for these type >> competitions than the collegiate ones (announcers mentioned that elite >> gymnasts do 3 times more gymnastics), but there were times where I was not >> very impressed. It was mostly the uneven bars, where most routines were >> sloppy when it came to the handstands. 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