absolutely ---- this surely is a major major step considering nothing is put 
forth in these circles without intense and well thought processess

--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay <adit.b...@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay <adit.b...@gmail.com>
Subject: g_b Re: [gb] a small sign of change
To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Vikram D" <vg...@yahoo.co.uk>, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, 
lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, khush-l...@yahoogroups.com, 
gayde...@yahoogroups.com, movenp...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 2:17 PM


  



Not so small actually Vikram. It means that the proverbial neck has been stuck 
out in the international minefield of Human Rights Politics by India the state, 
and now that lets the genie out of the other proverbial bottle. Now it will be 
that much difficult for India the state to either do a tortoise like retraction 
of the head or an ostrich like burial of the same. In the unlikely eventuality 
of any reversal in judicial process, the state can and will now be pilloried 
internationally if it does not take legislative action to reinstate 
decriminalisation. That is as good a hedge for our collective bet that I can 
think of at the moment. But more importantly, the state will be standing with 
our own heavies in the supreme court trying to ensure that such a damning 
eventuality does not occur in the first place. They have now written in stone 
that they will pitch for our cause..
The portents are rather good and I feel quiet pleased I must confess..
Best,
Aditya B


On 22 February 2011 22:10, Vikram D <vg...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


  








This report from Rex Wockner's news update is interesting because of the voting 
pattern on this issue about whether to give ILGA (the International Lesbian, 
Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association) consultative status at the UN. 
The motion failed, but in the column of countries voting to let ILGA in was 
India. 
 
This follows on that other vote on whether to reinstate sexuality related 
crimes as human rights abuses (or something on those lines, I don't have the 
exact wording) where again India voted on the side of queer rights (China, 
notably, opposed queer rights which shows, for all the tolerance that seems to 
exist there, where its feelings really lie - complete opposition to even the 
smallest discussion of rights). 
 
It is small things like this which show where the thinking deep in the 
government and bureaucracy really lies in India. I don't think we will 
automatically have an easy battle ahead or might always win, but in the end I 
think some real small change has happened: 
 
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
UN shuns ILGA again
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Non-Governmental Organizations Committee of the United Nations' Economic 
and Social Council (ECOSOC) on Feb. 4 again rejected a request for consultative 
status from the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex 
Association aka ILGA.
The committee voted to take "no action" on the request and to reconsider it in 
May.
Seven nations supported moving to an actual vote on granting ILGA the status to 
access U.N. meetings, deliver oral and written reports, contact country 
representatives and organize events at the U.N. They were Belgium, Bulgaria, 
India, Israel, Turkey, Peru and the United States. Opposed were Burundi, China, 
Morocco, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Russia, Senegal, Sudan and Venezuela. Kyrgyzstan 
abstained and Cuba and Mozambique were not present.
The NGO Committee only rarely has approved consultative status for LGBT 
organizations, though its refusals have several times been overridden by the 
full ECOSOC.
Groups that have finally achieved consultative status include International 
Wages Due Lesbians, Australia's Coalition of Activist Lesbians, ILGA-Europe (an 
autonomous division of ILGA), Landsforeningen for Bøsser og Lesbiske (Denmark's 
National Association for Gays and Lesbians), Lesben- und Schwulenverband in 
Deutschland (Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany), the Swedish national LGBT 
group RFSL (whose former initials now are its full name), Coalition Gaie et 
Lesbienne du Québec (Quebec Gay and Lesbian Coalition), COC Netherlands (a 
national LGBT group whose former initials are now its full name), Associação 
Brasileira de Gays, Lésbicas e Transgêneros (Brazilian Association of Gays, 
Lesbians and Transgenders), and the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights 
Commission.
ILGA had ECOSOC status from 1993 to 1994 but was stripped of it following a 
scandal, orchestrated by the U.S. right wing, in which a small number of ILGA's 
hundreds of member organizations were accused of not taking a strong enough 
position on age of consent.
Around 3,000 nongovernmental organizations have U.N. consultative status.Gay 





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