Danny,

I would hope that NO users follow your advice to post what they believe is
a security flaw to this list! That includes any external sequence they
know of which will cause a crash of the firewall. Even if the workaround
is posted, there is a serious exposure for everyone on this list who might
not see the workaround or be able to implemented before some lurking
cracker can take action.

I certainly DON'T want that information published where it is world
readible until GTA has a chance to evaluate it.

It is even reasonable to expect that someone would not check their email
every day. To suggest they have created a hoax because they failed to
respond on your time scale is unfair.

Profesional security practitioners would never follow your suggestion.
Since you have ignored earlier comments to this effect, I feel compelled
to stress this.

DO NOT SEND DOS OR SECURITY FLAWS TO PUBLIC MAILING LISTS ... EVER!

Dave Morris

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Cox, Danny H. wrote:

> I forwarded Andrew's email (GB lite user with mysterious crashes) to GTA
> support.
>
> They never heard of this issue and sent him emails directly.
>
> So far, he has not responded.
>
> I personally must now consider Andrew's claim as nothing more than a
> hoax or the frustrated venting of a GTA newbie (probably the latter) -
> NO OFFENSE INTENDED.
>
> Regrettably, the evidence (currently) offers no other conclusion at this
> time.
>
> My final comment is:
>
> Andrew and others,
>
> If you want help, or desire to make claims of discovering security
> related bugs, PLEASE DO SO by emailing the group.
>
> Please remember to be professional!
>
> Please provide details so we can all work on the problem, helping you in
> the process.
>
> Please do not allow your own needs and frustration to get the better of
> you. Yes, I too occasionally fall prey to this one!
>
> To do so, serves no purpose!
>
> I am not perfect and not 100.0000% right, 100.0000% of the time.
>
> That is why I am here - To give and get assistance to and from others.
>
> Andrew,
>
> If you are still having problems, PLEASE speak up now, provide useful
> data and I am certain we will all work to help resolve your firewall
> problem(s).
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Danny Cox

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