OK, I'm pretty sure that this is a pMTU-discovery problem.

Use of tcpdump at either end shows that "large" packets (that would
normally require fragmentation, ie larger than the MTU of the VPN tunnel
(~1440 bytes?)) that have the "Don't Fragment" bit set don't make it
through the tunnel - but neither does the GB send an ICMP 'Must
Fragment', which would normally tell the pMTU-discovery algorithm on the
host to decrease the MTU. As a result, the host just keeps resending
until something times out.

It's my understanding that the GB (at one end or the other) should be
issuing an ICMP must-fragment message, but isn't (or it is, but it's
being internally filtered before it can get out).

(and I'm aware of the MS05-019 issue - but this is between Linux boxen)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Dye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 May 2005 16:31
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [gb-users] VPN MTU
>
> I think I'm seeing weirdness with the MTU (or more likely, Path MTU
> Discovery) across a GB-Flash<->GB1000 VPN.
>
> From either end to the Internet at large seems fine, with an
> MTU of 1500
> not being fragmented (using an ICMP ping with a 1472 byte
> payload). The
> same test across the VPN gives me a payload of 1410 bytes, the
> difference presumably being IPsec overhead. But the weird bit is that
> I'm not getting the "must-fragment" errors; the packets are just being
> silently dropped.
>
> Can anyone point me in the direction of what I should be checking...?
> Specifically, what ICMP filters I should be using, and
> applied to which
> interfaces (preferably not on the VPN?)?
>
> Ta,
>
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