On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 7:03 AM H.J. Lu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 1:26 PM Uros Bizjak <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:56 PM H.J. Lu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > IMO the -fcombine-op-with-volatile-memory-load is quite a bad name.
> > > > > > Options should have names that mean something to users.  As this 
> > > > > > seems to
> > > > > > supposed to be a target opt-in I'd suggest to not expose this to 
> > > > > > users
> > > > > > (or if targets are concerned, via some -m...) but instead make this 
> > > > > > a
> > > > >
> > > > > -mvolatile-memory-load?
> > > >
> > > > -mfuse-ops-with-volatile-access?
> > > >
> > > > So as to eventually also allow RMW?
> > >
> > > Yes.  We can add the LOCK prefix for RMW if it is allowed.  But will it
> > > improve performance?  The LOCK prefix may be expensive.
> >
> > No, you don't need the LOCK prefix for volatile RMW access. LOCK is
> > needed for inter-thread synchronization, which is orthogonal to RMW
> > access.
> >
> > What Richard mentions is something like PR3506 [1], a step further
> > from propagating memory input, where also memory output is propagated
> > to form the instruction with RMW access. As an example, maybe you want
> > to increase the value stored at some memory-mapped IO. The location
> > has to be marked volatile, otherwise optimizers can figure out that
> > the memory location is unused and simply remove the update of "unused"
> > location.
> >
> > So, in the PR it is argued that:
> >
> >         movl    y, %eax
> >         incl    %eax
> >         movl    %eax, y
> >
> > access to volatile location is the same as:
> >
> >         incl    y
> >
> > and that the latter does not violate volatile correctness.
> >
> > [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3506
> >
> > Uros.
>
> This can be a followup patch.

it should be, I was merely mentioning this to make sure the command-line option,
if we add one, would be one that would cover this case as well (so not
use 'load'
in the name).

Richard.

>
> --
> H.J.

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