On Mon, 17 Nov 2025, Konstantinos Eleftheriou wrote:

> Hi Richard, thanks for the feedback.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 12:07 PM Richard Biener <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, Konstantinos Eleftheriou wrote:
> >
> > > This patch adds a new cost function so that the targets can decide if the
> > > store/load reordering will be profitable. It also adds the
> > > `asf-default-cost-value` parameter, which is used as the default return
> > > value for the cost function.
> >
> > It's a bit odd the param has "cost_value" and the hook says cost_p when
> > this is a simple flag in the end.  To that extent the "default" hook
> > should be either returning true or false and the knob the user has
> > is -f[no-]avoid-store-forwarding already, no need to add a --param.
> >
> The new parameter is "false" by default and "true" for AArch64 only. In
> case that we keep the default implementation, if we change it to `return
> flag_avoid_store_forwarding` and remove the new parameter, it will return
> "true" for all targets, as the pass will be enabled by default on all
> targets. Is that okay?

I don't see why we need to have a target hook then.  I think it makes
sense that target can opt out of the added compile-time of the whole
pass if it does not implement any store-to-load forwarding (AVR?),
so I'd like to see this implemented in terms of that.

That said, we have other passes (ccmp?) that face a similar situation
and I think we should have some consistency here.  But I do not remember
whether we settled on a canonical way to gate passes based on target
features.

Richard.

> >
> > One could even say the target hook should _not_ have a default
> > implementation and only targets that implement the hook should have
> > the pass enabled - we only pay with compile-time cost otherwise.
> >
> > So please rework this part.
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > > gcc/ChangeLog:
> > >
> > >       * doc/tm.texi: Regenerate.
> > >       * doc/tm.texi.in: Document new target hook.
> > >       * params.opt: New parameter.
> > >       * target.def: New DEFHOOK.
> > >       * targhooks.cc (default_avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p):
> > >       New function.
> > >       * targhooks.h (default_avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p):
> > >       New function declaration.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Konstantinos Eleftheriou <
> > [email protected]>
> > > ---
> > >
> > > (no changes since v1)
> > >
> > >  gcc/doc/tm.texi    | 7 +++++++
> > >  gcc/doc/tm.texi.in | 2 ++
> > >  gcc/params.opt     | 4 ++++
> > >  gcc/target.def     | 9 +++++++++
> > >  gcc/targhooks.cc   | 9 +++++++++
> > >  gcc/targhooks.h    | 5 +++++
> > >  6 files changed, 36 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/gcc/doc/tm.texi b/gcc/doc/tm.texi
> > > index fd208f53844a..aef552aac5f8 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/doc/tm.texi
> > > +++ b/gcc/doc/tm.texi
> > > @@ -7466,6 +7466,13 @@ needed, the sequence cost and additional relevant
> > information is given in
> > >  the arguments so that the target can make an informed decision.
> > >  @end deftypefn
> > >
> > > +@deftypefn {Target Hook} bool
> > TARGET_AVOID_STORE_FORWARDING_REORDER_COST_P (machine_mode,
> > @var{machine_mode}, @var{HOST_WIDE_INT})
> > > +This hook decides if it's profitable for the target to rearrange a store
> > > +and a load instruction to avoid a potential store forwarding stall.
> > > +The store and load modes and the byte offset of the store within the
> > > +load are given as arguments.
> > > +@end deftypefn
> > > +
> > >  @node Scheduling
> > >  @section Adjusting the Instruction Scheduler
> > >
> > > diff --git a/gcc/doc/tm.texi.in b/gcc/doc/tm.texi.in
> > > index 14315dd50805..0c3168cb6dde 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/doc/tm.texi.in
> > > +++ b/gcc/doc/tm.texi.in
> > > @@ -4781,6 +4781,8 @@ Define this macro if a non-short-circuit operation
> > produced by
> > >
> > >  @hook TARGET_AVOID_STORE_FORWARDING_P
> > >
> > > +@hook TARGET_AVOID_STORE_FORWARDING_REORDER_COST_P
> > > +
> > >  @node Scheduling
> > >  @section Adjusting the Instruction Scheduler
> > >
> > > diff --git a/gcc/params.opt b/gcc/params.opt
> > > index f8884e976e7f..96720651731d 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/params.opt
> > > +++ b/gcc/params.opt
> > > @@ -1091,6 +1091,10 @@ Maximum size of a single store merging region in
> > bytes.
> > >  Common Joined UInteger Var(param_store_forwarding_max_distance)
> > Init(10) IntegerRange(0, 1000) Param Optimization
> > >  Maximum number of instruction distance that a small store forwarded to
> > a larger load may stall. Value '0' disables the cost checks for the
> > avoid-store-forwarding pass.
> > >
> > > +-param=asf-default-cost-value=
> > > +Common Joined UInteger Var(param_asf_default_cost_value) Init(0)
> > IntegerRange(0, 1) Param Optimization
> > > +Default return value for the avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p
> > function.
> > > +
> > >  -param=switch-conversion-max-branch-ratio=
> > >  Common Joined UInteger Var(param_switch_conversion_branch_ratio)
> > Init(8) IntegerRange(1, 65536) Param Optimization
> > >  The maximum ratio between array size and switch branches for a switch
> > conversion to take place.
> > > diff --git a/gcc/target.def b/gcc/target.def
> > > index f288329ffcab..d60510e5458e 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/target.def
> > > +++ b/gcc/target.def
> > > @@ -7158,6 +7158,15 @@ the arguments so that the target can make an
> > informed decision.",
> > >   bool, (vec<store_fwd_info>, rtx, int, bool),
> > >   default_avoid_store_forwarding_p)
> > >
> > > +DEFHOOK
> > > +(avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p,
> > > + "This hook decides if it's profitable for the target to rearrange a
> > store\n\
> > > +and a load instruction to avoid a potential store forwarding stall.\n\
> > > +The store and load modes and the byte offset of the store within the\n\
> > > +load are given as arguments.",
> > > + bool, (machine_mode, machine_mode, HOST_WIDE_INT),
> > > + default_avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p)
> > > +
> > >  /* Determine the type of unwind info to emit for debugging.  */
> > >  DEFHOOK
> > >  (debug_unwind_info,
> > > diff --git a/gcc/targhooks.cc b/gcc/targhooks.cc
> > > index 1873d572ba3f..15d882f4703e 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/targhooks.cc
> > > +++ b/gcc/targhooks.cc
> > > @@ -2352,6 +2352,15 @@ default_avoid_store_forwarding_p
> > (vec<store_fwd_info>, rtx, int total_cost,
> > >    return true;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +/* The default implementation of TARGET_AVOID_STORE_FORWARDING_COST_P.
> > */
> > > +
> > > +bool
> > > +default_avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p (machine_mode,
> > machine_mode,
> > > +                                            HOST_WIDE_INT)
> > > +{
> > > +  return param_asf_default_cost_value;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > >  /* Determine the debugging unwind mechanism for the target.  */
> > >
> > >  enum unwind_info_type
> > > diff --git a/gcc/targhooks.h b/gcc/targhooks.h
> > > index 92e7a4cb10f1..5389ea1cb78b 100644
> > > --- a/gcc/targhooks.h
> > > +++ b/gcc/targhooks.h
> > > @@ -264,6 +264,11 @@ extern unsigned char default_class_max_nregs
> > (reg_class_t, machine_mode);
> > >  extern bool default_avoid_store_forwarding_p (vec<store_fwd_info>, rtx,
> > int,
> > >                                             bool);
> > >
> > > +extern bool
> > > +default_avoid_store_forwarding_reorder_cost_p (machine_mode store_mode,
> > > +                                            machine_mode load_mode,
> > > +                                            HOST_WIDE_INT offset);
> > > +
> > >  extern enum unwind_info_type default_debug_unwind_info (void);
> > >
> > >  extern void default_canonicalize_comparison (int *, rtx *, rtx *, bool);
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Richard Biener <[email protected]>
> > SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH,
> > Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg, Germany;
> > GF: Jochen Jaser, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich; (HRB 36809, AG
> > Nuernberg)
> >
> Konstantinos.
> 

-- 
Richard Biener <[email protected]>
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH,
Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg, Germany;
GF: Jochen Jaser, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich; (HRB 36809, AG Nuernberg)

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