Hi Alfie,

Yes, that's what I've been doing to test my previous patches,
I just don't remember "make -k check" ever ending with an error message,
and wasn't sure whether correct usable testsuite results even get
produced when that happens. Should I proceed with compare_tests
even though the testsuite make command ended with an error?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 10:48 AM Alfie Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, there are frequently breakages in the test suite while in stage 1, for a 
> variety of reasons.
>
> For that reason, we normally use the `contrib/compare_tests` script to 
> compare test result runs from before and after your patch, check if any 
> regressions have been introduced.
>
> Thanks,
> Alfie
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kevin Stefanov <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, 27 September 2026 17:52:25
> To: Andrea Pinski <[email protected]>
> Cc: Alfie Richards <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Mentoring for easy issue of week 52
>
> Thank you, that fixed my build, it passes now.
> For some reason, "make -k check" is giving me issues
> now, even without my changes, on pristine sources,
> the testsuite run keeps running for a few hours,
> then ending with:
>
> make: *** [Makefile:2720: do-check] Error 2
> make: Target 'check' not remade because of errors
>
> Both on my x86_64 Fedora laptop and on cfarm185.
> Is there a known temporary unavailability or breakage
> of the testsuite? Or is this nothing to be worried about?
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2026 at 2:24 AM Andrea Pinski
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2026 at 12:38 AM Kevin Stefanov
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I managed to get on cfarm185, I cloned a pristine gcc,
> > > configured the build with:
> > >
> > >  ../gcc/configure --prefix=$HOME/gcc-build-output-pristine \
> > > --enable-languages=all --disable-multilib \
> > > --target=aarch64-linux-gnu
> >
> > I normally use --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran .  Especially on
> > cfarm185 which has an older distro on it.
> >
> > >
> > > but I think the machine needs its bison version updated,
> > > my build crashes with:
> > >
> > > bison -o cobol/cdf.cc -Werror -Wmidrule-values \
> > > -Wno-yacc --debug --verbose \
> > > --defines=cobol/cdf.h --report-file=cobol/cdf.out \
> > > ../../gcc/gcc/cobol/cdf.y
> > > ../../gcc/gcc/cobol/cdf.y:363.10-16: error: require bison 3.8.2, but have 
> > > 3.0.4
> > >  %require "3.8.2"  // for C++ output
> > >           ^^^^^^^
> > > make[3]: *** [../../gcc/gcc/cobol/Make-lang.in:159: cobol/cdf.cc] Error 63
> > >
> > > I believe I read somewhere that I can't update or download
> > > packages by myself and I need the cfarm admins to do that
> > > for me, right? Should I email them?
> > >
> > > Also, does it matter which machine I get on, or can I just pick any
> > > machine whose usage graphs show it's not currently being
> > > oversaturated and used by too many people?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 6:45 PM Andrea Pinski
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 7:51 AM Kevin Stefanov
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Good news, I wrote the RTL optimization code snippet in
> > > > > simplify-rtx.cc right before the simplify_associative_operation call:
> > > > > ```
> > > > > if (INTEGRAL_MODE_P (mode))
> > > > >   {
> > > > >     if (GET_CODE (op0) == NEG && rtx_equal_p (XEXP (op0, 0), op1))
> > > > >       return simplify_gen_unary (ABS, mode, op1, mode);
> > > > >     else if (GET_CODE (op1) == NEG && rtx_equal_p (XEXP (op1, 0), 
> > > > > op0))
> > > > >       return simplify_gen_unary (ABS, mode, op0, mode);
> > > > >   }
> > > > > ```
> > > >
> > > > This looks correct.
> > > >
> > > > > and compiled the GIMPLE code from the bugzilla page with:
> > > > > ```
> > > > > ../../objdir-contrib-arm/gcc/xgcc -B../../objdir-contrib-arm/gcc/ \
> > > > > -fgimple -S -O2 -march=armv9.5-a \
> > > > > RTL-smax-optimization.c -o RTL-smax-optimization.asm
> > > > > ```
> > > > > using the original statement:
> > > > > _3 = __MAX (t_2, a_1(D));
> > > > > and also compiled with the __MAX operands reversed so I
> > > > > can test the code for the second case and they both emitted:
> > > > > ```
> > > > > .LFB0:
> > > > >         .cfi_startproc
> > > > >         abs     w0, w0
> > > > >         ret
> > > > >         .cfi_endproc
> > > > > ```
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the result we wanted, right?
> > > > Yes it is exactly the results we want.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If so, is my next step to
> > > > > apply for access to the cfarm and get assigned a machine
> > > > > and a directory on it for me to work in, so I can do the usual
> > > > > full bootstrap GCC build targeting aarch64, with and without
> > > > > my changes, run the full testsuite with both and compare results
> > > > > to ensure I didn't introduce any regressions, then send the patch?
> > > >
> > > > Yes that is correct.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andrea
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 4:57 PM Alfie Richards 
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 22/09/2026 14:49, Kevin Stefanov wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks Alfie, that was really helpful.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I reran the make command and the error was trivial
> > > > > > > to spot that time. I then ran "make -j$(nproc) all-gcc"
> > > > > > > and the built GCC was finally able to compile my
> > > > > > > GIMPLE code and emit the arm assembly code
> > > > > > > show on the bugzilla page. I can get to adding the
> > > > > > > RTL optimization now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ah fab!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For a full aarch64 bootstrap setup when I get to
> > > > > > > the stage of running the testsuite, I'll still have to
> > > > > > > get on a cfarm machine and test my patch on it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes (mostly). It's a lot easier for setting up a bootstrap build, 
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > also parts of the testsuite require the ability to compile then run
> > > > > > code. You can setup emulators for that, but all together its 
> > > > > > normally
> > > > > > significantly easier to use a native environment if you can get one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can use the cfarm (https://portal.cfarm.net/users/new/)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or you can use software like QEMU to emulate an entire aarch64 
> > > > > > linux VM
> > > > > > on your x68_64 machine which is normally surprisingly performant 
> > > > > > (in my
> > > > > > opinion).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > Alfie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 2:27 PM Alfie Richards 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 22/09/2026 11:20, Kevin Stefanov wrote:
> > > > > > >>> Hi Alfie, thank you for the suggestion.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I added --disable-bootstrap to the configure command
> > > > > > >>> but "make" ended with an error again:
> > > > > > >>> make: *** [Makefile:1109: all] Error 2
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I scrolled up for a while but couldn't spot any actual error
> > > > > > >>> message that says what went wrong.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Ah yes, would definitely be helpful to find, from my experience 
> > > > > > >> there
> > > > > > >> will be one somewhere, but often not trivial to find.
> > > > > > >> If you try running the command again (without changing anything) 
> > > > > > >> it is
> > > > > > >> often easier, as all the previous successful jobs will be 
> > > > > > >> skipped so the
> > > > > > >> log will be shorter and often just contain the failure. 
> > > > > > >> Especially if
> > > > > > >> you use -j 1.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regardless, for this situation, I would suggest using
> > > > > > >> `make -j$(nproc) all-gcc`
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> As this will avoid building runtime libraries and will likely be 
> > > > > > >> enough
> > > > > > >> for what you need.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> It is likely you don't have a working aarch64 assembler, linker, 
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >> libc.  To successfully compiler runtime libs (which is part of 
> > > > > > >> `make
> > > > > > >> all`) you would need those. (But I think you likely don't need 
> > > > > > >> to do
> > > > > > >> `make all`)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hope this helps,
> > > > > > >> Alfie
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Yes, so far for my patches I've always done my testsuite results
> > > > > > >>> comparison on a native x86_64 bootstrapped GCC build with:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >

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