Hi Marcin, Thank you for the reply. I have seen Alexander around here enough to wonder if he was associated with the project or not, so thank you for clearing that up. It's a shame when someone not associated to the project can give that project a bad look when it is not at all any fault of people that do support the project.
I am a test automation developer that started as a QA. I am not and don't intend to be a full stack developer but I've learned SO much from learning Geb/Groovy/Spock that I consider myself almost an expert in the framework. I've been in Ben's place before. Now I've brought this framework into 2 different companies I've worked for. Thank you for all of the work you put in to support this project and thank you to all the people who provide helpful responses! This is hands down the best framework I have used in the past 3 years. On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:30:14 PM UTC-5, Marcin Erdmann wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > Thanks for your email. I agree that Alexander has a tendency to be rude > and to reply in condescending or hostile manner not only on this mailing > list but also on Stack Overflow as you've noticed. One thing I'd like to > make clear is that Alexander is by no way associated with the project and > that I personally condemn responding to people's questions this way. As far > as I remember, I have tried privately suggesting to Alexander in the past > that his style is not appreciated and puts him in bad light but apparently > my well intended advice has been ignored. In my opinion, if you believe > that the person asking the question did not put enough effort before asking > it then it's best to just ignore it instead of sending emails like this. > > To answer Ben's original question (hopefully he's still following this > thread even after how he's been treated) - Geb is a browser automation > framework and not a testing framework therefore it's not its responsibility > to generate JUnit XML reports. That responsibility lays with whatever tool > (Gradle, Maven or Ant, just to name a couple) is used to run the tests > (written using a test framework like JUnit, Spock or TestNG) which are > using Geb to drive a browser. > > Cheers, > Marcin > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 4:04 PM Marc <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> I am a lurker here and get a ton of good information and helpful tips >> from this mailing list. However, I regularly notice that Alexander is rude >> and often replies towards people in a condescending or hostile manner. It >> isn't just here either as I see it on StackOverflow on occasion. It's not >> a good look when I can read a reply and guess who it is based off the tone >> of the reply. >> >> Geb is an awesome framework that not many know about in my experience. I >> try to share it with whomever I can as a test automation solution here in >> America. While the documentation is very good and well worth a complete >> read-through, people shouldn't have to be afraid to come and ask questions >> only to get called out or receive rude replies. Isn't the point of this >> mailing list a place to ask questions and receive updates regarding the >> framework? So he might have asked a few basic questions that may or may >> not be in the documentation, so what? Many of us here were QA first and >> automation developers second. Not all of us are full-stack developers and >> we learn enough to get us by. >> >> Let's please be a welcome community and offer help to those who ask. We >> want people to use this framework. I want people to use this framework. >> People aren't going to want to use it if they learn that asking questions >> might get them yelled at. >> >> On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 2:57:06 AM UTC-5, Alexander Kriegisch >> wrote: >>> >>> You clearly have not read the relevant parts of the documentation (BTW, >>> how do you decide what is relevant before knowing anything about a new >>> tool?) and I am not sure if you even tried to run tests via Gradle or >>> Maven before asking your question. Maybe you could just try first next >>> time and then start asking questions if you encounter any problems >>> instead of doing feature checks on a mailing list because you are too >>> lazy to try. >>> >>> BTW, are you aware of the fact that you can download a ZIP archive of >>> any branch, tag or commit you navigate to from GitHub? No need to clone. >>> No need for lame excuses either, excuse my French. You are a developer, >>> behave like one. >>> -- >>> Alexander Kriegisch >>> https://scrum-master.de >>> >>> >>> Ben Frey schrieb am 12.10.2019 02:57 (GMT +02:00): >>> > >>> > I am a new user, and I do read (the relevant parts of) the >>> documentation >>> > before asking a question here. Unfortunately, I am not able to pull >>> from >>> > external sites at work, so forking a project to play with isn't >>> possible. >>> > >>> > On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 11:49:54 PM UTC, Trinidad Esparza >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Ben, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I notice you are a new user, I recommend you to read all the >>> >> documentation <https://gebish.org/manual/current/> and >>> >> also you can fork the example projects to get started. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- >>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-maven> example-maven >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- >>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-gradle> example-gradle >>> >> >>> >> https://github.com/geb/geb- >>> >> <https://github.com/geb/geb-example-cucumber-jvm> >>> >> example-cucumber-jvm >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hopefully, this helps! >>> >> >>> >> >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "Geb User Mailing List" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> > email to [email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]> . >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>> > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geb-user/5fd91833-7c58-4b59-b056-423a95c18e53%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> > < >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geb-user/5fd91833-7c58-4b59-b056-423a95c18e53%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> >>> >>> > . >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Geb User Mailing List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geb-user/046792c4-a5f9-452d-b5b5-a6b25186e4cb%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/geb-user/046792c4-a5f9-452d-b5b5-a6b25186e4cb%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Geb User Mailing List" group. 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