Steve,

I don't mind... all the input I can get, will only
help me be a better herp keeper! *smile*

BTW, how much insulation do you get by insulating with
paper? Are you putting it on the outside of the
tank... I have considered using the paper for
aquariums (my LFS has ones especially for herp tanks),
but can't right now... not enough money for those
luxuries! But I have insulated my hermit crab tank
with styrofoam sheets and I was considering doing the
same with my leos' tanks... because of the cold in the
basement ~60-65* at night... but then I remembered
that the desert can get colder than that... so I was
confused...

I have a UTH in my leos' tank, but I also use a
smaller wattage red heat light for over them on the
flat rock... they spend most of their time in the
caves over the UTH... Rarely do they go in the logs on
the cool side.  I bought some slate rocks from a
garden store yesterday ($.15/lb!) and plan to redo
their tank a little tomorrow... with caves on the
colder side and caves over the UTH... any
recommendations, opinions, advice? They seem sluggish
lately and not up to eating like before... I thought
it might be because of the cold.

I have only had these guys for about 5 weeks... I am
still learning.  They weren't prepared for brumation,
so I didn't put them in it... I hope to next year...

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

--- Steven Groginsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Laura, if you don't mind my interjecting...
> 
> Someone said somewhere that a rock under a lamp gets
> too hot for geckos to 
> tolerate.  A better solution would be an under-tank
> heater or heat tape.  I 
> personally think rocks are good because they help
> make evening temperature 
> transitions slower.
> 
> I had been insulating with paper but I don't see
> much point to it now.  You 
> want as much of a temperature gradient as possible
> down to the minimum 
> desireable.  And if the lamp is reaching the high
> desireable temperature...  
> One thing I would recommend, and this is an entirely
> personal idea for my 
> juvenile Leopard gecko, is to put paper about 4"
> high from the bottom all 
> the way around like a fence.  I kinda believe that
> this makes the inhabitant 
> feel more secure.
> 
> 
> >From: Laura Ricketts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [Gecko] Heat Lamps- was heat tape
> >Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:39:59 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I have a question, that is probably redundant, but
> >it's one of those that can't seem to stay in my
> >brain.... we heat gecko tanks to help them with
> >digestion, etc. right? Now, a heat lamp heats a
> stone
> >or surface for them to lay on to help them heat
> up...
> >but they spend the whole day sleeping in their
> caves!
> >I have been told to (1) use a UTH to keep them
> warm,
> >and (2) have the cave cool and damp, with the heat
> >lamp on the rock above... which is the absolute
> best
> >setup for heating them... within reason... I am not
> >talking prices of stuff... I mean.. UTH vs heating
> a
> >rock surface, etc.  Even the books seem confusing
> and
> >I just can't seem to get it stuck in my head!
> >
> >Also, Julie, these 32 qt. containers... what are
> the
> >approximate dimensions? How would they be better if
> >you are limited to space, vs the 10g tanks?
> >
> >Finally, do any of you insulate tanks on three
> sides
> >to help maintain heat in the tank? (Sides and Back)
> >
> >Thanks for bearing with this old, decrepit brain of
> >mine!
> >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > In a message dated 2/1/01 2:56:34 PM Eastern
> > > Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > <<
> > >  I would stick with overhead lighting for 10
> > > gallons. I recommend 8-1/2"
> > >  reflector lamps, you will have to experiment
> with
> > > light bulbs to get the
> > > desired
> > >  86-88F in one end. Heat tape is problematic
> with
> > > the type of set-up you
> > >  describe. If you want to breed several
> leopards,
> > > get a rack system and go to
> > > 32
> > >  quart Rubbermaids or an equivalent - you can
> use
> > > heat tape safely in this
> > > type
> > >  of set-up.
> > >   >>
> > > Hi-
> > > This sounds like a good use for the 5 pack of 20
> > > watt halogen bulbs.
> > > I was just looking at buying them myself,  and I
> > > believe Greg C. uses these,
> > > so maybe he could tell us alittle about them?
> > > I was curious how hot the spot gets at a
> distance of
> > > say 8" in a ten gallon?
> > > Any idea?
> > > And what is the max distance between the bulbs?
> is
> > > it 2 feet? Can you run
> > > them in a straight line 10 feet long, with a
> bulb
> > > every two feet?
> > >
> > > These seem perfect for tight fits like cabinets,
> and
> > > they reduce the space
> > > needed by about 8" heightwise.
> > > Thanks
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
>
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