Great, thats cleared i right up. Oh yea, she stayed out the whole day and just layed their. So I think she was trying to soak up them rays for egg production. Thanks again, Mario
----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Traher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > Sorry I was not clear enough. There are 2 types of blacklight commonly > available, one is: > > The party light your referring to. These are sold with the term "BLB" > fluorescent blacklight lamp. The tubing (or glass of the bulb) is made from > a very deep violet-blue glass known as "Wood's glass"....and are commonly > used in night clubs etc.. for special effects due to their ability to make > fluorescent objects glow very brightly. This is not the bulb to use. > > The second is: > > The "BL" fluorescent blacklight lamp, the glass (of the bulb) is not dyed to > block visible light, the glass is the normal "cool white" fluorescent lamp > glass colour. This is the blacklight bulb I'm referring to. > > I have seen many species of nocturnal geckos partially exposed to the sun, > during the day in the wild (ie: at the edge of a crack in exposed rock etc). > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mario Stinso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2002 7:49 > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > What I was refering to was that you mentioned: > > "We have been using the NEC and Sylvania BL blacklights since > > the 80's on the entire herp (amphibians, snakes, geckos etc..) collection > > (around 1000 animals) and have never had any eye or skin cancer type > > problems attributed to the bulbs" > > This is the black light I was asking about, and now you said you replied > > saying that you were talking about a normal "cool white" fluorescent. So > now > > I'm a little confused as to which bulb you using. > > As with slandered fluorescent bulbs, I use one and one vita-light bulb > over > > my breeder females currently at 11 on 13 off. My light is more then 12" > away > > however. And I had a successful mating last night. Now the female that I > > mated is laying all day under the light today. They normally don't come > out > > when the day lights are on. But then again I recently just started to use > > them. Maybe female geckos come out in the daylight hours a little more to > > soak up uvb rays once they have mated in the wild. Of course when I get > > more of them bread, I will be able to see if they react in a similar > > behavior as well. It' then could be maybe she just wants more heat as she > is > > near the basking spot too. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Russel Traher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > NO Mario, I think the party lights your referring to are the "BLB" > > > fluorescent lamp. The tubing is made from a very deep violet-blue glass > > > known as "Wood's glass"....and are commonly used in night clubs etc.. > for > > > special effects due to their ability to make fluorescent objects glow > very > > > brightly. > > > > > > The bulb I'm referring to is the "BL" fluorescent lamp, the glass is not > > > dyed to block visible light, the glass is the normal "cool white" > > > fluorescent lamp colour. > > > > > > We just use them during the day. > > > > > > No, we have not used them on albinos of any species, we don't have any. > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mario Stinso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 10:29 > > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > > > > Question, is this a standerd party type florecent bulb? And do you > have > > > many > > > > albinos that were raised under this bulb? Was this for time time or > day > > > time > > > > also? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mario > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Russel Traher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:37 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you come across any literature regarding UVA or UVB and eye > > problems, > > > > > please post the reference....thanks, it's a subject I'm very > > interested > > > > in. > > > > > I have also heard comments regarding UVA/UVB causing eye problems > and > > it > > > > > most certainly would if the exposure is high enough. Although I > can't > > > > > recall any specific papers confirming or highly suggesting it with > > > > > blacklights. We have been using the NEC and Sylvania BL blacklights > > > since > > > > > the 80's on the entire herp (amphibians, snakes, geckos etc..) > > > collection > > > > > (around 1000 animals) and have never had any eye or skin cancer type > > > > > problems attributed to the bulbs. Our colony of Phelsuma, which are > > now > > > > > around F9, have never had any problems with their eyes.....they have > > > been > > > > > raised exclusively on the BL Blacklights for UV, which are on 9 to > 14 > > > > hours > > > > > a day (season dependent). We have successfully bred and raised many > > > > species > > > > > of herps using them. Currently I don't have a UVA probe for my > meter > > > and > > > > I > > > > > can't recall the measurements of UVA they produce... anyway, if I > can > > > > > secure funds to buy the probe, I'll post its UVA comparison to the > > > > Reptisun > > > > > 5.0. > > > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Doug Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2002 9:19 > > > > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Russ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. I've always been under the impression that extended exposure > > to > > > > > > black light could cause eye problems. Not sure though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Russel Traher wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug, have you compared the UVB output of a zoomed 5.0 to a BL > > > > > blacklight? > > > > > > > The NEC 'BL' type blacklights available in Australia put out > more > > > UVB > > > > > when > > > > > > > compared to the zoomed bulbs and are quarter of the price. They > > > don't > > > > > > > produce much light, but work great when used in conjunction > with > > a > > > > bulb > > > > > > > that has a high CRI and high K. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Doug Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2002 11:37 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with everything you said. However, the main problem > I've > > > had > > > > > > > > with the Reptisun 5.0 is the amount of light it produces. It > > does > > > > not > > > > > > > > generate the amount of lumens other sources do. They also > don't > > > > create > > > > > > > > the color temps I want for my enclosures. I've always wanted a > > UVB > > > > > bulb > > > > > > > > that also puts out a CRI of greater than 92 and has a color > temp > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > 5000K range. Because of that, I tend to use two bulbs whenever > > > > > > > > possible... one Reptisun 5.0 and another bulb with those other > > > > > > > > characteristics that create a blend of all the right light. > Greg > > > > > > > > Christenson has always talked about that sort of thing, too, I > > > > > believe. > > > > > > > > I generally use halogen lights as heat spots when possible to > > add > > > > some > > > > > > > > more of the whiter light. And, since the filament temps are > > higher > > > > on > > > > > > > > halogens, they can create some UVB as well (as long as there > > isn't > > > a > > > > > UV > > > > > > > > shield piece of glass blocking it). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Klavir wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thought I'd chime in on the UVB discussion. Would have > > > contributed > > > > > > > earlier > > > > > > > > > but have been more than a bit under the weather. > > > > > > > > > Reptisun 5.0 bulbs will begin to degrade after about 4 > months, > > > > > luckily > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > is a slow process, but does change the depth of penetration > of > > > the > > > > > UVB > > > > > > > > > wavelengths being emitted by the bulb. The concept is not > one > > of > > > > > having > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > 5.0 that penetrates 12" turn into a 2.0 that penetrates 12", > > but > > > > > instead > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > 5.0 that penetrates 12" becomes a 5.0 that penetrates 2-3", > > > after > > > > > about > > > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > months. I guess if your animals are always basking directly > > > under > > > > > the > > > > > > > bulb, > > > > > > > > > you can get a longer life span out of the product. > > > > > > > > > Also important to note that a Reptisun 5.0 will continue to > > emit > > > > > useful > > > > > > > > > amounts of UVA for months after it ceases to emit UVB. > > > > > > > > > UVA is used in depression therapy for humans, so when the > UVB > > is > > > > > over, > > > > > > > put > > > > > > > > > the tube in your kitchen or work shop for some "Happy > Light". > > > > > > > Re-cycling > > > > > > > > > your older UVB bulbs for your non UVB requiring creatures > can > > > > always > > > > > be > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Neal Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:54 PM > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > Subject: [Gecko] UVB lighting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, so the general consensus is that after 6 to 9 months, > you > > > > should > > > > > > > replace > > > > > > > > > UVB bulbs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's say I have a UVB 5.0.....after 9 months, could I > > replace > > > > it, > > > > > and > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > treat it as though it was a UVB 2.0 for a few months? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words, after they "expire" do they just put out > less > > > UVB, > > > > > or do > > > > > > > > > they stop producing any useful UVB altogether? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, and have a great weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neal G. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! > > > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://auctions.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > Auctions Great stuff seeking new owners! 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