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From: "Magnus Forsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Gecko] Fungus ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hartmut Lipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:39 AM
> Subject: AW: [Gecko] Fungus ?
>
> Hi Hartmut and thanks,
>
> I have allready sent animales for analysing to three different places, but
I
> will
> take one moore live animal and send it to Dr. Mutschmann as well.
> All the animales are kept much dryer now then normal, so I think all that
I
> can do for now is done. I will keep you up to date with this.
> Magnus
>
> > the symptoms that you describe sound like something I have encountered
> > with Phelsuma two times up to now, but only on WC specimen. In one case
> > two P. cepediana had this, and in another a P. serraticauda male. Of
> > the three only one survived, but I have to add that I then had tried no
> > treatment as I could not find out what it really was, and didn�t want to
> > do some kind of cure blindly. It began with frequent shedding, and then
> > under the new skin there were wet and dark areas of skin, which seemed
> > to be infected or something. On one I tried to help the shedding, but
> > that seemed worse - the old skin that sticked to the wet new skin was
> > seemingly some kind of protection to dehydration or something. So I
> > let the other animal with the old skin "glued" to it, and it survived
> > longer - the P. serraticauda-male even survived this, but kept large
> > scars on the infected areas that would never look normal again (see
> > the attached picture ... the murky areas on the back).
> >
> > I then sent a deceased cepediana to Dr. Hiller, whom some of you might
> > remember from the Gecko Meetings in Germany - he is specialised on the
> > skin of Phelsuma ... . He told me that it seemed to be caused by a
> > bacterial infection of some kind, but couldn�t tell which kind as the
> > animal was not "fresh" enough to cultivate and analyse the bacterial
> > culture. As I have not had this again up to now I could not supply him
> > (or some other vet) with fresh material ... so I would strongly suggest
> > that you should take one of the animals to a vet and have a sample
taken,
> > so he can cultivate it and see which kind of bacteria (or fungi) it
might
> > be, and let him try which cure workes best on these cultures ... if 25
> > animals are involved, this should surely be worth the trouble.
> >
> > My animals were kept in the same room and close to other cages, without
> > any other animals beeing infected than the new ones. But fungi and
> > bacteria are known to be able to spread by air, so ... how many rooms
> > have you available? :-( In general - in drier surroundings funghi will
> > not thrieve, so perhaps keeping them drier might help?
> >
> > One last note - as I keep Poison Arrow Frogs as well, I know that with
> > amphibians there is a very bad (and seemingly new) disease that infects
> > the skin and is very dangerous ... perhaps it can affect Geckos as well?
> > I am sure that somewhere in Hamm (or at a dealer�s shop) there have been
> > some "Chytridiomykose"-infected animals - if you consider sending a live
> > or freshly deceased and conservated (no alcohol!) specimen to a
> > specialist, you might consider this adress:
> >
> > Institut f�r veterin�rmedizinische Betreuung niederer Wirbeltiere und
> Exoten
> > Dr. F. Mutschmann, TA F. Hausemann, Dr. C. Gaedicke GbR
> > Am Tierpark 64, 10319 Berlin,
> > Telefon: 030/51067701
> > Fax: 030/51067702
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Dr. Mutschmann is not only able to help with frogs; he knows his ways
with
> > reptiles as well.
> >
> > Good luck, and keep us up to date
> >
> > Hartmut
> >
>
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