Sorry if this is duplicate - having a server problem today, too :( > Hi Steve, > > > I would make absolutely sure you do not have a mite problem. A friend of > mine had a similar > > sudden death problem in his collection. I did fecals on many of his > animals and found nothing. I > > questioned him about mites, and he said definitely not, then two days > later took a closer look and > > found he had a major mite infestation! > > That was my very first thought - sudden death = anemia, etc. But I went > through everybody, top to bottom, didn't find a thing: no mite dust or > mites. > > They were also doing a strange flipping behavior too, > > flopping their heads or tails around (maybe to try and rid themselves of > mites). > > That's another strange part of the equation - everybody was behaving > perfectly normal; no excessive soaking, no rubbing ... > > > You also mention you had a green snake, which threw up a red flag when I > was reading your message. > > These are usually wild collected and carrying mites and blistery sores. > I have observed mites on > > green snakes I have seen in pet stores here in CA recently, and almost > always found mites on the > > green snakes when they arrived at the pet store I worked at in NJ many > years ago. > > Yes, they are WC. I did pull a couple of ticks off them when I got them (two > years ago), but nothing since. The green may or may not be a victim of > this - he was 18 inches, near his max, according to the field guide, so he > may have simply been old. It just seemed a heck of a coincidence that he was > in the very next tank, and died the day after the three garters. The other > green seems perfectly fine. (The garters I had had for a year). > > Whatever this is, it started after I pulled everybody out of brumation: > maybe it was dormant? > > Barbie >^,,^< > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.tripod.com/barbieheid/ > "Save the whales - collect the whole set." >
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