Hi Sam,

Yes, cycling means inducing a winter season.  Although your temperatures are higher 
than what
would be a winter cycling temperature, reducing the temperature from what they are 
used to could
start getting them ready to breed again.  It may not, that's why I said could!  I 
would give them
a few months off before breeding them again.  You could turn off their heat altogether 
now, and
get them breeding again in several months if you wanted.  

Regards,

Steve
www.geckosetc.com

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Steve, 
> I received my last clutches from all three of my females in the first week of 
> May...so it has almost been 2 months now. And received eggs from them every 
> 20-27 days. Just had a quick question: What did you mean by dropping the temps 
> would start their "cycle"? That they will start breeding again?
> Thanks in advance Steve
> -Sam
> 
> 
> > Subj: Re: [gecko]Breeding Season (Leopard Geckos) 
> >  Date: 6/20/2003 12:00:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> >  From: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> >  Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> >  To: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> >  Sent from the Internet 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Sam,
> > 
> > 5 clutches isn't too bad!  I have observed first year breeders to lay a 
> > similar number of eggs. In
> > their second and third years they can lay significantly more.  How long has 
> > it been since they
> > laid their last clutch?  I usually get eggs from each female every 2-4 
> > weeks, but I don't consider
> > them finished for the season until it has been 2 months since the last 
> > clutch.  
> > 
> > Dropping the temperature now will likely begin their cycling, which may not 
> > be a bad thing to give
> > them a break.  I don't drop the nighttime temperatures of my leopards.  I 
> > give them a 90 degree
> > hot spot all the time (only bottom heat) while they are breeding, and just 
> > unplug their heat tape
> > when I want them to cycle. I leave them without heat for 2 or 3 months, 
> > feeding occasionally. 
> > Oftentimes the temp drop associated with winter cycling is not necessary as 
> > the normal temperature
> > change in your house is enough to stimulate "spring time", but going through 
> > the cycling process
> > allows you to control when they will start breeding.  
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Steve
> > www.geckosetc.com
> > 
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hi Julie,
> > >I am currently placing 1.1 Breeders in my 3, 33 gallon tanks, and will be 
> > >adding more females into those colonies shortly. Since last night i have 
> > turned 
> > >off the heating lights, bringing down temps from a 90*F to 82*F (room 
> > temp.) im 
> > >gonna see if maybe this'll work out. and if not...maybe my females are done 
> > 
> > >laying eggs this season....with a total of only 5 clutches.
> > >-Sam
> > >
> > >
> > >>Subj: Re: [gecko]Breeding Season (Leopard Geckos) 
> > >> Date: 6/20/2003 9:36:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >> From: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >> To: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >> Sent from the Internet 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >><A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> wrote:
> > >>>>Hi Julie,
> > >>>You've always been so kind to reply and help me out with many of my 
> > >>>questions on here. 
> > >>>A while ago you helped me out with my dented/ moldy egg situation, with 
> > >>>your help and advice i got my first two hatchlings a few weeks ago! :) 
> > Thanks 
> > >>>again Julie :)
> > >>>
> > >>You are welcome Sam! 
> > >>>>
> > >>>Also regarding my breeders (i'm in ontario) they're in 90*F in warm area, 
> > 
> > >>>80*F in cool area in their enclosures..in a well lit room...but someone 
> > has 
> > >>>just told me that i would have to lower the temps at night time...and it 
> > >>>makes a lot of sense...they're getting the above temps constantly...so i 
> > guess 
> > >>>it has kinda got them outta the mood to do anything.
> > >>
> > >
> > >A night time drop is natural and healthy.
> > >>
> > >>>>
> > >>>would lowering the temps be all i should do right now?
> > >>>they're in a 33 gallon tank...with a humid hide, and many hiding spots, 
> > on 
> > >>>paper towel, and calci dish provided...and they're eating like crazy with 
> > 
> > >>>fat tails...males and females are together.
> > >>>Thanks again!
> > >>
> > >
> > >From reading this - do you have multiple 33 gallon tanks or one with all 
> > your 
> > >leos in 
> > >>there? Just wanting to make sure you have not put males together, I gotta 
> > >>ask. ;)  Through the advice and research of Dr. Brian Viets (co-author, 
> > >>Leopard Gecko manual), I now have either 1.2s (one male, two females) or 
> > 0.3s with 
> > >>a male visiting in the beginning of the breeder season then making an 
> > exit. 
> > >>The geckos are much healthier now since less competition is going on.  
> > >>As far as the lighting goes, I have a Helix system with a photoelectric 
> > eye. 
> > >>This system is really sweet! It powers up the incandescents in about 1/2 
> > >>hour at dawn, then clicks on the full spectrums when the incandescents are 
> > fully 
> > >>powered. The reverse happens at night, or if there is heavy cloud cover. 
> > >>There is also a "moon" light at night. This way I don't have to worry 
> > about 
> > >>turning off light switches and have thrown out a ton of traditional 
> > timers. It 
> > >>keeps the geckos cycling very naturally.
> > >>
> > >>Julie B.
> > >>>>
> > >>>-Sam
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>In a message dated 6/19/2003 11:31:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <A
> > >HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
> > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>Subj: Re: [gecko]Breeding Season (Leopard Geckos) 
> > >>>>Date: 6/19/2003 11:31:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >>>>From: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >>>>Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >>>>To: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
> > >>>>Sent from the Internet 
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Hi Sam,
> > >>>>
> > >>>><A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>Hi All,
> > >>>>>I was wondering when the breeding season for leopard geckos ends?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Depends on where you live and how artificial your terrarium conditions 
> > are. 
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>I haven't received anymore clutches from my female breeders since 
> > >>>>>around May 5th.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Mine are in full egg laying mode, they start laying in April and usually 
> > >>>stop late August. 
> > >>>>>>That is pretty typical for Northern CA. I also use light cycling that 
> > >>>>coincides with the seasons. Mine are not induced to lay early (October, 
> > >>>>November) like so many breeders do just to make a buck. Typical East 
> > Coast USA 
> > >>>>is Dec. start for laying.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>And I haven't seen them mate at all for a long while...so i suspect the 
> > >>>mating season 
> > >>>>>>>>>>has been over for a while.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Well, one mating is good for the season (females retain sperm) so that is 
> > 
> > >>>not really a 
> > >>>>>>factor.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>Also even if they don't mate still...doesn't a couple matings at the 
> > >>>>>beginning of the season provide the females with enough sperm to lay 
> > eggs 
> > >>>>>'till around August? Why have mine stopped so early? 
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>I would ask other leopard breeders in your part of the USA to see if 
> > yours 
> > >>>really did stop 
> > >>>>>>early. If they did, then you need to look at things like light 
> > >>>>cycle/temps.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> 
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