(sorry Elizabeth, I realized I sent this just to you, and not to the entire 
list so I'm sending again...stupid email server....)

Very glad to hear that you got her to a vet quickly.  and although parasites
is not a good thing, pinworms are generally relatively easy to rid off, so
hopefully treatments can begin soon and she will be back to health!

I've also tried a vet-based Cat food for force feeding geckos, it was A/D, and
it was for cats, have heard that it's actually not the best from some other
vets,(better than baby food nonetheless I'm sure) but does anyone have any
opinions on it if they've tried/use it?

Best of luck to you and River,
Karin Chan

>===== Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =====
>Hi Karin & Sarah,
>
>Thanks for your advice.
>
>I did make it to the vet this afternoon.  Fortunately "River" produced a
>fecal sample on the way that showed a couple of pinworms.  However, the vet
did
>not wish to treat for these until her physical condition had improved.
>
>He recommended:
>       *A water soak 15-20 min/day
>       *Feed via syringe (not using gavage needle) 0.1 ml to 0.2 ml up to 0.6
>ml total daily in 3-4 daily feedings some "dog food-like" moist food that I'm
>supposed to mix with water---sorry did not catch the name of it.  He said
>this food was far superior to chicken baby food nutritionally.
>       *Use full spectrum lighting 16 hrs daily---now I've heard some folks
>don't recommend full-spectrum for leopard geckos---but in this totally
>compromised state of health we will do it
>
>He found:
>       *A couple pinworms in the fecal float
>       *Took a culture from the cloaca for bacteria & prescribed 1 drop/day
>orally of 50:50 Enrofloxacin  (lab results back Monday afternoon)
>
>His prognosis:  Guarded
>
>This vet could not feel any sign of impaction.  She was currently being kept
>on Lizard Litter and maybe sand, both of which some folks say are
>contraindicated for leopards.
>
>I will do as he says.  If any of you have further recommendations, please let
>me know.
>
>River and I thank you.
>
>Elizabeth
>
>In a message dated 9/27/03 12:54:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
>>
>> In my experience, if she is free of parasites and other internal problems,
>> the
>> best thing to do is to simply keep her hydrated (I gave pedialyte or ensure
>> once a week in place of regular water) and to continue with the baby food
>> until she wants to accept regular insect feed.  In the past, this has taken
>> anywhere from just a week or so, to a good month.
>>
>> I'd also raise the temps on the warm side to about 85-88 F, and moving the
>> moist hide (humid hide) to the warmer side to raise the humidity in it.
>>
>> What was she kept on before the paper towels? could she be impacted?
>>
>> -Karin Chan
>>
>>
>> >===== Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =====
>> >Hi Folks---
>> >
>> >On 9-11-03 I started monitoring this 4th grade classroom leopard gecko who
>> >had minor trouble shedding with some skin remaining on one of her eyes.
>> With
>> >two wraps in a warm wash cloth for about 15 mins the remaining skin was
>> easily
>> >shed.  However, I was quite concerned at the size of this animal.  On 9-15
>> she
>> >weighed in at 22.5 grams; by today (9-27) she is weighing 17.5 grams.  She
>> is
>> >8" long.  Her tail is extremely thin.  Obviously she has no fat stores
left.
>> >
>> >On ~9-23 she eagerly ate 6 wax worms...since then she has eaten Gerber's
>> >chicken baby food off her nose, but has not so far shown interest in that
>> when
>> >left on a lid.  I brought her home yesterday.  As of last night she is in
>> >relatively "sterile" surroundings:  a 10 gallon with a paper towel
>> substrate,
>> a 40
>> >watt red bulb lowered by a rheostat to 80 F in one of those fixtures that
>> covers
>> >half the top of a ten gallon, a medium-sized rock under the light where
she
>> >has slept for hours, a dry hide with moss on the warm side, and a moist
hide
>> >with moss on the "cool" side.  She has a 4" water dish and a lid with two
>> wax
>> >worms, two small meal worms (wheat germ).  There is a 1/2" cricket on the
>> loose
>> >in the cage.
>> >
>> >As of last night, and a little this AM, she still accepts chicken baby
food
>> >off her nose....but she does not seem to be eating independently.
>> >
>> >What can I do to assist her to regain her appetite?
>> >
>> >There will probably be trouble getting her to the vet before Monday
>> >afternoon, so I'm wondering what is the best I can do for her in the
>> meantime.  (One
>> >vet is moving, and the best one is relatively far away.)
>> >
>> >Hope that someone can help.
>> >
>> >Elizabeth
>> >Seattle
>>
>
>
>
>Elizabeth
>Seattle
>
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