Chad...

Whenever I find any Phelsuma eggs, with the exception of standingi, I remove them and incubate. Since my tanks are also naturalistic (to a much lesser degree than yours, but with lots of hiding places) I often don't find all the eggs. I know I've missed some when I spot hatchling(s) in with the adults. Since I rarely find more than one, I'm assuming some are lost to adult predation.

Even with P. standingi, I remove the eggs from one of my 3 breeding groups. I started finding tiny tails, etc. in the tanks about the time the eggs hatched, and no hatchlings. The other 2 pairs, the eggs are left in situ. I leave the hatchlings in the tank with the adults until they start to change their coloration to that of adults. If I'm late, dad takes interest in the girls, and the boys that start to take interest in mom end up worse for wear!!! I've had 3 or 4 clutches of hatchlings in a tank with the adults at one time! It's pretty funny when they all pile on mom and dad under the basking lights! One other word of warning... I took a couple of the older babies from the adult tank for a show once. Sold one and just dumped the other back in with the group. Bad idea!!! It had only been gone 24 hours, but that was enough for it to lose whatever identification they have to be accepted by the parents. Got the crap beat out of it before I noticed!!!

Aggressiveness in P. klemmeri??? I've never seen it in any of my groups. I keep them in 1.2 groups for breeding. I've never kept 2 males together in a breeding group, though, and I wouldn't recommend it. Of course, if you have a huge tank with separate basking areas and enough space between them for 2 groups to establish individual territories without overlap, I suppose it's possible. I just don't know how big it would have to be. Likely larger than the tank you've pictured. FWIW, I usually keep clutch mates together until they are sexable. I've had two males who grew up together coexist with no problems. Of course, if a female was introduced I'd expect all hell to break out!!!

Chad Mayer wrote:

Yeah, I thought about that after you mentioned it last time.....I notice my laticauda is pretty good about finding a good spot for her eggs, they all seem to hatch out fine (the ones Ive left in there...). Any experience just letting them do their own thing as far as laying and then hatching out? Is it necessary to remove them? I'd probably get a better hatch rate if I could control all the conditions, but Ive gotten > 70% just letting the laticauda lay where they will and letting them hatch out...small sample size though, only 6 eggs.

Oh, and anyone care to comment on male aggressiveness in this species?

Chad

BTW, thanks Barbie!

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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:54:16 -0800
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Chad...

Great looking tank, but you will never find the eggs!!!

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Doug Johnston
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