I agree with Danny Mendez. 
I have all kinds of small bugs in my tanks. For the most part these
small insects live of mold, fungus and dead plant matter, they won't
harm your cresties.
Mold and fungi are normally a passing phenomenon that will disappear by
themselves after a little while provided there is enough ventilation in
the enclosure.
I'm not a big fan of disinfecting terrariums. As I see it, healthy
animals have an immune system that should protect them against
infections.
I have small bugs in all my terrariums. I raise hatchlings of R.
chahouas and R. leachianus in naturalistic terrariums with such small
bugs from day 1. 

I believe that keeping animals in as clean as possible and as sterile as
possible terrariums is overprotection and doesn't benefit the animals in
the long run. It is hard to maintain a sterile environment in high
humidity and high temperature conditions. You can keep a tank very clean
most of the time but you can't keep it sterile all of the time. If you
try to eliminate all potential infection sources in the terrarium you
are likely to fail at least in part. The bacteria who survive
disinfection of a tank are the most hardy ones and those may/will get
more and more hardy for every time they survive an unsuccessful
disinfection procedure. It may not be a big risk but eventually you
might end up with bacteria that are able to survive short periods of
very poor conditions. IMO this creates more of a risk than a benefit for
the gecko since the gecko lives in a tank that is very clean most of the
time and is seldom exposed to dirt and infections. IMO animals that are
kept in very clean conditions that are often disinfected are more likely
to have a poorly developed immune system. 

I believe that the immune system of geckoes is in small part inherited
by the parents and primarily dictated by the surroundings. Still, over
generations of keeping and breeding geckoes that are kept in very clean
enclosures it there is a risk of producing animals that have a lesser
developed immune system. In this case animals would be more susceptible
to infections and allergies.

In order for geckoes to develop immunities to foreign particles and
bacteria it has to be exposed to them first. Since young reptiles have a
more acute immune system than adults I believe that it is during the
youth of a gecko that it builds up a list of immunities to different
bacteria and foreign particles. 

After all, the animals come from non sterile conditions in the wild and
even if we keep them in countries that are worlds apart from their
native habitats I believe that geckoes in captivity develop immunities
against as many of the potentially dangerous bacteria they are exposed
to. About 5 years ago one I had a pair of WC tockays. About a year after
I bought them the male got an oral infection that spread and lead to
death since I didn't have a good vet at hand and wasn't experienced
enough to go to the vet in time. Shortly after the female got the same
infection, this time I went to the vet earlier but she still died on me.
:o( I raised some CB hatchlings from this same pair in the same tank and
all of them were very healthy and never got sick. This might not prove
anything at all but since this incident I've never had a single animal
get infected by anything and my tanks haven't gotten any cleaner in the
mean while. I remove feces from some tanks if they should build up, I
also clean the sliding glass doors of tanks when they get dirty. Other
than that I don't do any other cleaning in my tanks except removing prey
items that have grown too big for geckoes to eat or to remove uneaten
dead pinkies.

Regards
obeligz
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Emne: RE: [gecko]question about crested gecko behavior

The little white bugs are most likely springtails, they inevitably
arrive in any "woody" bedding, even the commercial stuff made for
reptiles!  They will do abolutely nothing to your gecko, in fact, they
are feeding on fungus and mold so I essence they are probably more
helpful than damaging.

No worries.

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Subject: [gecko]question about crested gecko behavior


Hi All -
I have 2 juvenile R. ciliatus (somewhere between 4-6 months old) and I 
have noticed over the past 2-3 weeks that on occasion one or both of 
them will go hide in their bamboo branches and not come out for 2-3 
days straight.  I am wondering if this is odd behavior at all.  
Otherwise, they seem to be fine - they are usually out the other 4 days 
or so out of a week and are eating regularly.  Does anyone else's 
crested do this?  I am slightly concerned over the fact that there is 
mold growing on the inside of the bamboo, which I do wipe down 
periodically (but can't seem to get rid of it) and this morning I found 
very, very tiny white bugs crawling on the end of the bamboo that they 
were sleeping in and have been hiding in for the past 2-3 days.  I 
wiped the little bugs off, but I'm not sure what they were and if they 
were just going after the mold or if they were going to go after my 
juvies.

I would appreciate any feed back on this.
- Thanks,
Dana

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Providence, RI 02906
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