Julie,
Have you ever bred the dwarf leo's? I have one female with a perfect jungle stripe.
Cyndy

-- Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Hilde,

I think runts are possible with any gecko genus, I know I have seen some 
in R. leachianus, leopards and more. I have seen the bug-eyes in leos 
only. From what I gather talking to other folks it is likely a genetic 
deal. With runts there are several possibilities, genetic, disease or 
incubation conditions. I have a whole bunch of leo runts that were 
incubated too cool (under 80F).  I have some that are genetic. Many 
folks really don't like the bug-eye deal, I don't have that much of a 
problem with with it as it seems purely cosmetic in nature.

Julie B.

Hilde wrote:

>The last two shows where I was a vendor, I was shown 2 crested geckos which haven't 
>grown. Even
>though they are about 6 months old, they're both barely the size of a 2 month old 
>crestie, and
>both have 'bug-eyes'.  In both cases the owners asked me if I had any input, but I'm 
>at a loss. 
>They are not related in any way. One came from a local breeder, one was imported from 
>the US
>(I'm in Canada).  Both owners are conscientious enough to know how to properly care 
>for
>cresteds, so I don't think it's their care.  The only thing they have in common is 
>that they are
>both being fed the Gargoyle Diet exclusively, but since it's a highly recommended 
>product, I'm
>inclined to think it's not at the root of the problem. All I could think of is some 
>sort of
>thyroid problem, but I don't even know if that could/would produce bug-eyes in 
>geckos. 
>
>I promised the owners I'd see if I can dig up any info to help them figure out what 
>happened and
>avoid that problem in the future. Does anyone have a clue what causes bug-eyes in 
>cresties or
>geckos in general? Any idea what they can do to correct the problem? For now they're 
>both going
>to feed crickets and mashed fruit along with the gargoyle diet.
>
>Thanks for any input,
>
>Hilde
>  
>


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