hahah Good call Sven,

yes, super worms ( darkling Beetle larve ) are the USA trade and common names for Zoophbas Morio.
Pheonix worms are a trade name for an undisclosed fly species.
They are sold in maggot form. The word maggot however is often considered repulsive and few willingly will exchange cash for them.
Pheonix sounds Harry Potterish though and they sell well.
Trivial names, but required for retail purchase as dealers often have no clue as to what they sell

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On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Sven Vogler wrote:

Sorry folks,


but what the heck are "phoenixworms" and "superworms"???

I can imagine the latter to be Zophobas, but these trivial names just gimme headaches....
:-)


Greetings from Hamburg


Sven  Vogler




----- Original Message -----
From: "Lyle Puente"
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Subject: Re: [gecko]Phoenix worms
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:51 -0400

You can also try using super worms and crickets. I feed mine a high percentage of crickets. I keep bins of super worms and pick out the fresh sheds. They are white and very soft. If they have trouble learning to catch crickets you can put them in a bowl or pinch the hind legs. Some of mine like silk worms, few like goliath worms ( tomato horn worms )
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On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Diane Rudesal wrote:

Thanks very much! Guess there's no reason not to give them a try then.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:06:37 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Hi =0),
I normally feed my adult leo mealworms too but I have
fed her large Pheonix Worms. She loved them.
I didn't gut load them but I did dust them.
Evil Neo was happy and I had no problems.

I hope this is helpful.




In a message dated 7/19/2008 6:18:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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My leos are used to being fed mealworms, and as you probably all know,
there is a  national shortage of them right now and none can be had
anywhere in stores  or online. Are Phoenix Worms a safe substitute? If
so, what size would an  adult leopard gecko need (small, medium or
large)? Also, the website (www.phoenixworm.com) states that gutloading is not necessary with them -- is this accurate? And would they need to
be dusted with the Repashy Calcium  + ICB, as i've been doing with my
mealworms, or would that give them an OD of calcium, since the Phoenix
Worms are higher in calcium (again, according  to the website)?

Thanks for your help.

Diane
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