Stephen Williams wrote:
Steven Wilson wrote:
Just saw the market share survey done by John Cooley-
http://www.deepchip.com/items/dvcon07-03.html
Icarus shows up with 0.4% market share. Steve - you've slipped from 0.5%
in 2005 to 0.4% in 2007?? How are your sales going? ;-)
It looks like the "also" tools have been dropping away, and in
a sense Icarus Verilog has picked up a proportion of the "also"
category. But the "also" category as a whole went from 5% to 3.8%.
There were only 818 respondents, so the difference between 0.5% and 0.4%
is probably nothing, or one person.
Besides:
Q: Are you saying this census is completely unbiased?
A: Not hardly. This census is very heavily skewed towards ASIC and SoC
designers plus their associated verification engineers. Some of the high
end FPGA guys and the backend DFM nerds are in this mix, too. What's
blaringly absent from my audience are the PCB board folks and the cheap
seats who are burning tiny 22V10's with free software.
He's completely missing out most of the FPGA market; those guys aren't
interested in ESNUG. I forget the numbers, but a couple of years ago
people were talking about something like 80K FPGA starts, and 4K ASIC
starts. Whatever way you look at it, there have got to be at least 10
times as many engineers using FPGA tools as using ASIC tools, and
they'll be the ones who are most interested in Icarus. And the ones who
do VHDL, too.
I wonder two things:
1) How were the seats counted when a user uses two tools at the
same time. I know of places for example that have (and use) VCS
and ncverilog (and presumably also Icarus Verilog in the corners).
Both counted - that's what he calls 'mindshare'.
Evan
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