On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:18:19PM +0200, Florian Steiper wrote:
> Karel Kulhavy wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:05:46PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Hello!
> >>
> >>May be I have missed discussion around this product, but I should like 
> >>to hear your thinks about.
> >>
> >>http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=ktechlab-review
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Who compiles gets the Nobel Prize, doesn't he?
> >How difficult is it to compile the program and all required libraries?
> > 
> >
> Hello
> 
> emerge gpsim gputils
> tar -xjvf ktechlab-0.1.2.tar.bz2
> cd ktechlab-0.1.2
> ./configure; make
> 
> and this is where I am right now, but I get your point with the libraries :)

Many projects with big libraries (like X.Org lately for me) are in an pre-alpha
stage where they don't even compile despite the fact you follow the README
exactly.

Sometimes the big bloated projects are funny. Rebooting computers in our school
labs was forbidden. But I discovered that when I bring up X with Gnome, often
some absolutely unimportant program that is being started at the startup
(among many) took up the whole VM, upon which the whole system froze from being
totally trashed up (along with remotely logged-in users) and the lab service
had to come and press RESET (the OS was trashed so much ctrl-alt-del didn't
bring any extra good).

I was doing that over and over and making fun from the fact that rebooting
machines is forbidden in the lab, but they couldn't take my badge (which could
be taken for e. g. deliberaltely pressing RESET) because I just said
"I am just running the user space programs that are pre-installed here".
I was just doing what majority was - running Gnome :)

Also my friend is always upset when I run Konqueror (KDE web browser) on
his machine and then log out. It leaves couple running processes behind :)
Again, I just use to say "sorry, but Konqueror is your favourite web browser"
:)

People like denying problems pointed out in the things they promote (because it
moves all the problems from their side to yours) but forget that sometimes you
can pretty upset them just by taking their words for true (that's what
supposedly everyone wants - for his words to be taken seriously) :)

Once also one of my friends who is into operating system pointed out that
the new Linux kernel is crap and full of bugs (he even found out some,
sent patches, they were ignored, and the bugs are still there - virtual memory
management deadlocks, filesystem corruption etc). They installed it in the
labs, of course. And then some exploit was revealed. So we waited, then
downloaded the exploit, downloaded /etc/shadow and run John the ripper on
the password hashes from /etc/shadow.

I came to one of my friends and asked him: "Hi, Martin, are you listening
to Autechre?" "Yes, how do you know?" "From your UNIX password."

Cl<
> 
> ciao
>    Florian
> 
> >Cl<
> > 
> >
> >>Thank you!
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>With best regards,
> >>Andy Shevchenko.      mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >
> > 
> >
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