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(armdeveloper) > 10. Re: pcb vendor drill mapping not changing the report info ? > (armdeveloper) > 11. Re: pcb vendor drill mapping not changing the report info ? > (John Luciani) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:29:18 +0200 > From: Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: gEDA-user: Defaults for mask and clearance of pcb footprints? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hello, > > I read the footprint creation guide > http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20050129.pdf > some months ago, but currently I can not remenber what the defaults for > mask and clearance are and where these are defined. Please give me a > pointer. > > Thanks > > Stefan Salewski > > > Fri, 1 Jun 2007 21:20:45 -0700 Ben Jackson wrote: > >>I initially set the mask and clearance manually, but then I took them >>out and accepted the default, since I have no experience tuning those. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:24:36 +0200 > From: Stefan Salewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: gEDA-user: Looking for 3-pin footprints (7.5 mm Film > Dielectric Trimmers) > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Before I try to make my own: > Are 3-pin footprints for trimmer capacitors available for gEDA/pcb? > > http://www.vishay.com/docs/28527/28180875.pdf > > Best regards > > Stefan Salewski > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:04:26 -0400 > From: Vincent Onelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: gEDA-user: footprint > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello, > I try to generate a footprint for transistor TO92 as a simple one for > start every thing went well, exception when I convert to element the arc > was not converted, it disappear from the drawing. I appreciate if some > body can tell me what I am doing wrong, thank you > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.seul.org/pipermail/geda-user/attachments/20070729/f93f4773/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:38:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: footprint > To: "gEDA user mailing list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >> Hello, >> I try to generate a footprint for transistor TO92 as a simple one for >> start every thing went well, exception when I convert to element the arc >> was not converted, it disappear from the drawing. I appreciate if some >> body can tell me what I am doing wrong, thank you > > > Vincent, > > Post the code you're having problems with and you may get more exact > results. > > For Arcs, though, check to make sure that the arc sweep is a realistic > value along with the line thickness. Also, double check the center point > of the arc, as if you add a zero to the center coordinates it may end up > off your screen. > > ?? > > Phil > > Here is the code for the TO92 Element["" "" "" "" 405300 302400 0 0 0 100 ""] ( Pin[-10000 -4000 7000 3000 7600 2800 "" "1" "edge2"] Pin[10000 -4000 7000 3000 7600 2800 "" "2" "edge2"] Pin[0 6000 7000 3000 7600 2800 "" "1" "edge2"] ElementLine [-17500 2500 -13700 12000 1000] ElementLine [13500 12000 -13500 12000 1000] ElementLine [18000 3500 13500 12000 1000] ) > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:42:58 -0400 > From: gene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gaf 20070526 released! > To: gEDA user mailing list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Ales Hvezda wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am pleased to announce the release of gEDA/gaf 20070526. >> >> http://geda.seul.org/devel/20070526 >> >> Please test it out and if I hear of no major problems in the next >> few days, I will write up release notes and do the usual release >> announcements/updates. >> >> Many thanks to all the individuals who worked on and contributed to >> this really juicy release! >> >> -Ales >> >> PS. md5sum of the release tarballs: >> >> b74b22b70f51e654db97f906d5cbaeb9 *geda-docs-20070526.tar.gz >> 21cffdafdfe97ba9cfdd4be3ae4bdbd4 *geda-examples-20070526.tar.gz >> 2d3f3d6bdf0c14065ddf2dc647052d57 *geda-gattrib-20070526.tar.gz >> 2791169bc8987db9a2950214beacde16 *geda-gnetlist-20070526.tar.gz >> 638be7add265e8aaf86dcf60e56ea7c1 *geda-gschem-20070526.tar.gz >> bafef3f39036762544dea86495df13c1 *geda-gsymcheck-20070526.tar.gz >> acb14bf682b2dcfd485f33a9c89dca7e *geda-symbols-20070526.tar.gz >> 145f2cfa7d85603705bc08bbb35ad4a1 *geda-utils-20070526.tar.gz >> a9104640475d9fae2f4e8dfa9c18f3fd *libgeda-20070526.tar.gz >> be8ec17ca7d770aba5c29784887b25b6 *Makefile >> 85b7e894dfa8a393224bf77f61b3e900 *README >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geda-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> >> > Builds fine on Slackware 11. Sorry for not getting to it sooner. > thanks! > > gene > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:06:20 +0000 (UTC) > From: Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Unwanted compent markings > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:41:57 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > >>> Can the labels be fixed/locked to the component? I tend to turn or move >>> the labels of small SMD parts instead of getting the component itself. >> >> Recent pcb's can. In lesstif, it's view->lock names, or in gtk you can >> :Display(ToggleLockNames) > > I modified the menu definition of the gtk GUI so that it contains this > action too. It wasn't that difficult -- Just two lines of copy-paste from > the lesstif resource file to src/gpcb-menu.res . Here is the patch: > > /---------------------------- > --- gpcb-menu.res 2007-06-21 15:51:42.000000000 +0200 > +++ gpcb-menu.res_orig 2007-06-21 15:55:40.000000000 +0200 > @@ -199,8 +199,6 @@ > {"Thin draw" checked=thindraw Display(ToggleThindraw) a={"|" > "<Key>|"}} > {"Thin draw poly" checked=thindrawpoly Display(ToggleThindrawPoly) a= > {"Ctrl-Shift-P" "Ctrl Shift<Key>p"}} > {"Check polygons" checked=checkplanes Display(ToggleCheckPlanes)} > - {"Lock Names" checked=locknames Display(ToggleLockNames)} > - {"Only Names" checked=onlynames Display(ToggleOnlyNames)} > - > {"Vendor drill mapping" ToggleVendor() checked=VendorMapOn} > } > \--------------------------------- > > In other words, just copy the lines that start with > {"Lock Names... > and > {"Only Names... > above the line that starts with > {"Vendor drill... > > ---<(kaimartin)>--- > -- > Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 > Universit?t Hannover, Inst. f?r Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 > Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de > GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:39:19 +0000 (UTC) > From: Kai-Martin Knaak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Unwanted compent markings > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:44:27 -0700, Andy Peters wrote: > >> I suppose I'm so used to the assembly people working from an assembly >> drawing (w/ refdes only) and a BOM which lists refdeses and our internal >> part numbers. A part value, especially on something like SMT ceramic >> caps, isn't all that helpful. > > I put the values and of SMD resistors and caps inside the box that mark > where the component goes. Refdeses simply go on top of the values. > Because the letters are mostly on the pads, they won't appear on the silk > screen of the fabricated board --- Font size would be way too small, > anyway. But assembly printouts can be enlarged to a convenient size. > With Refdeses and values directly on top of their corresponding > components there is no room for doubt and ambiguity even if space is > tight. > > ---<(kaimartin)>--- > -- > Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 > Universit?t Hannover, Inst. f?r Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 > Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de > GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:12:34 -0600 > From: armdeveloper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: pcb vendor drill mapping not changing the > report info ? > To: gEDA user mailing list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 15:22 -0600, armdeveloper wrote: >> I created a "vendor resource file" with the appropriate drill sizes in >> it. I used the file format in the pcb help html page. I commented out >> the skips and the DRC stuff from the example. >> >> I load the file from the command in the File menu. I believe I enabled >> the use of the file with the command in the Settings menu. I applied >> the vendor drill map with the command in the Connects menu. >> >> However, when I view the Drill Summary Report in the info window, it >> doesn't show the holes being converted to the vendor sizes. > > This still doesn't work. Here is my vendor file. > > # Optional name of the vendor > vendor = "APC" > > # units for dimensions in this file. > # Allowed values: mil/inch/mm > units = mil > > # drill table > drillmap = { > # When mapping drill sizes, select the nearest size > # or always round up. Allowed values: up/nearest > round = up > > # The list of vendor drill sizes. Units are as specified > # above. > 17 > 25 > 32 > 35 > 39 > 49 > 57 > 83 > 122 > 149 > > # optional section for skipping mapping of certain elements > # based on reference designator, value, or description > # this is useful for critical parts where you may not > # want to change the drill size. Note that the strings > # are regular expressions. > #skips = { > # {refdes "^J3$"} # Skip J3. > # {refdes "J3"} # Skip anything with J3 as part of the > refdes. > # {refdes "^U[1-3]$" "^X.*"} # Skip U1, U2, U3, and anything > starting with X. > # {value "^JOHNSTECH_.*"} # Skip all Johnstech footprints > based on the value of a part. > # {descr "^AMP_MICTOR_767054_1$"} # Skip based on the > description. > #} > } > > # If specified, this section will change the current DRC > # settings for the design. Units are as specified above. > #drc = { > # copper_space = 7 > # copper_width = 7 > # silk_width = 10 > # copper_overlap = 4 > #} > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:32:51 -0600 > From: armdeveloper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: gEDA-user: Second feature request for pcb... > To: gEDA user mailing list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Another little feature I'd love to see added to pcb is the use of the > ctrl button to add/remove one extra item to a selection. > > Lets say I want to select everything in a box except one component. I > select the select tool and draw a box around what I want. How do I > unselect the one item ? Maybe pcb has functionality for this already ? > > Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:01:31 -0600 > From: armdeveloper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: pcb vendor drill mapping not changing the > report info ? > To: gEDA user mailing list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 15:22 -0600, armdeveloper wrote: >> I created a "vendor resource file" with the appropriate drill sizes in >> it. I used the file format in the pcb help html page. I commented out >> the skips and the DRC stuff from the example. >> >> I load the file from the command in the File menu. I believe I enabled >> the use of the file with the command in the Settings menu. I applied >> the vendor drill map with the command in the Connects menu. >> >> However, when I view the Drill Summary Report in the info window, it >> doesn't show the holes being converted to the vendor sizes. > > This still isn't working. I'd appreciate some input if you have any. I > posted with my vendor file, but the post hasn't appeared yet. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:14:27 -0400 > From: "John Luciani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: gEDA-user: pcb vendor drill mapping not changing the > report info ? > To: "gEDA user mailing list" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 7/30/07, armdeveloper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This still isn't working. I'd appreciate some input if you have any. I >> posted with my vendor file, but the post hasn't appeared yet. > > Your message with the vendor file appeared ~45 minutes ago. > > (* jcl *) > > -- > http://www.luciani.org > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > geda-user mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > > End of geda-user Digest, Vol 14, Issue 68 > ***************************************** > _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list [email protected] http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
