Dear Frank, I tried the patches to have a log and drc frame below the pcb main window and they work great. Thanks a lot for your work. I used them now for one day and I like to give some feedback. I guess this might be also interesting for other devs like Peter. (Sorry up to know I do not have an overview which dev is responsible for which part of pcb) 1. To maximise my workspace, I would like to see the icons for detach, rerun drc-check, etc. boarders not on the top of the frame but on the left or right side. The boarder between the message frame and the main frame of pcb should be as small as possible allowing to minimize the whole frame into a single text line if I am not much interested in the current outputs. 2. for the messaging window I would prefer that the messages always scroll and only the last x messages are visible on a x line text frame. Normally, the last message gives the summary of the recent action and everything before is just detail. With this I could minimize the frame to a single line of text and still can read about the success or error of an command. In case of an error I can still scroll up the read the details. 3. This would require some tweaking with the present log-system. But maybe if an error occurs a flag can be set, signalling to change e.g., the frame colour to red. By this way, it is even easier... I simply work on my design and only if the frame colours red I know something went wrong which I should check in detail. 4. Do you think it is possible to integrate even more (if not all) floating windows in that frame? It would be very pleasant for me. I don't like floating windows. As I stated already they are hard to control and create sometimes funny effects e.g. on different window managers or on multiple monitor set-ups. I would prefer a single monolithic window system. 5. Since this frame has already detach option how about to include the patches to pcb and offering a choice in the preferences whether the frame standard should be detached or attached. By this way every user can decide which way he prefers. 6. As a far aim goal, I would like to see the implementation of terminal which allows me to execute commands and scripts, in a similar way like Autocad or Eagle use it. I believe it would make sense to use the log window or message window for that if there are only single line commands (maybe interactive). Pressing ":" could create a new line waiting for input. E.g. moving an object could be as simple as type m (enter) would ask to select the desired object with the mouse or type the refdes name and then asking to type X and Y coordinates (maybe allowing absolute and relative positions) or click with the mouse to the new location. A more sophisticated interactive scripting faclility may need the integration of something like scintilla [1]. All this are just points I came up with during working with pcb now for a few days... Thus, if there is anything stupid or violating the pcb-design philosophy... simply ignore me. Best regards, Torsten [1] [1]http://www.scintilla.org/
References 1. http://www.scintilla.org/
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