Thanks DJ. I have another question now. I open up my custom footprint and it fills the entire graphics editor and I can't zoom out. I can zoom in, but not out. I wanted to move it so the diamond was in a different place, but since I can't zoom out, it is difficult to do this. I set the scale to 60, but this had no effect. So, I am having to edit the file directly in GEdit. One thing though, how do I place a comment in the footprint file. I would like to comment the file so I know what line does what until I learn this good enough where I don't need the comments. Z.K.
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:41 PM, <[1][email protected]> wrote: Send geda-user mailing list submissions to [2][email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [4][email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [5][email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of geda-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: How to change the default folder for my drawings? (Johnny Rosenberg) 2. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (kai-martin knaak) 3. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John Luciani) 4. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (John Luciani) 5. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (kai-martin knaak) 6. Re: Beginner question about the default title block (Stephan Boettcher) 7. Re: Drawing lines (schematic editor) (Stephan Boettcher) 8. How to make a foot print ([6][email protected]) 9. Re: How to make a foot print (DJ Delorie) -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:54:18 +0100 From: "Johnny Rosenberg" <[7][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my drawings? To: "gEDA user mailing list" <[8][email protected]> Message-ID: <op.vn4r8sdwxqd...@pb-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Den 2010-12-22 20:50:56 skrev DJ Delorie <[[email protected]>: > > The default folder is the current working directory. If you're using > the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the desktop icon > what it's starting directory is. If you start gschem from the terminal > the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal. > I use the Programs menu (Gnome, Ubuntu 10.10) and there is no such option there, unfortunately. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:55:18 +0100 From: kai-martin knaak <[10][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block To: [11][email protected] Message-ID: <ietl3m$ojt$[[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I supposed > to fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way > to do it? Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block. I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That way I can fire the attribute editor with [ee] and edit all entries in a dialog. You'd have to add a line to your local gschemrc in order to get your localized title block. See [13]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#can_i_get_a_customized _title_block_with_new_schematics While at it, I also removed the big rectangle. I just never fits my circuit. Instead, I draw a rectangle with the add-box tool. [14]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#why_are_symbols_so_big ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak ?ffentlicher PGP-Schl?ssel: [15]http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500 From: John Luciani <[16][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block To: [17][email protected], gEDA user mailing list <[18][email protected]> Cc: [19][email protected] Message-ID: <aanlktimzcanb6oog=vrts+ro_nnwsjbfowx+qqrj=[20][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak <[21][email protected]> wrote: > Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I supposed >> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way >> to do it? > > Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block. > I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title > with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That is what I did too. The one I use for A-size is below. (* jcl *) v 20031231 1 T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1 graphical=1 B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 TITLE T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 title=? T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 REVISION T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 revision=0 T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 PAGE T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1 page=? T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 OF T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 number_of_pages=? T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 DRAWN BY T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 drawn_by=JCL ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:58:55 -0500 From: John Luciani <[22][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block To: [23][email protected], gEDA user mailing list <[24][email protected]> Cc: [25][email protected] Message-ID: <aanlktimzcanb6oog=vrts+ro_nnwsjbfowx+qqrj=[26][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak <[27][email protected]> wrote: > Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I supposed >> to ?fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way >> to do it? > > Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block. > I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title > with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That is what I did too. The one I use for A-size is below. (* jcl *) v 20031231 1 T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1 graphical=1 B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 TITLE T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 title=? T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 REVISION T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 revision=0 T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 PAGE T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1 page=? T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 OF T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 number_of_pages=? T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1 DRAWN BY T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1 drawn_by=JCL ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 20:58:21 +0100 From: kai-martin knaak <[28][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor) To: [29][email protected] Message-ID: <ietl9c$ojt$[[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" DJ Delorie wrote: > Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where > you want. If the line wants to jump to places you don't like, press ctrl while dragging the line with the mouse. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak ?ffentlicher PGP-Schl?ssel: [31]http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:06:03 +0100 From: Stephan Boettcher <[32][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block To: gEDA user mailing list <[33][email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Peter TB Brett <[34][email protected]> writes: > On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > >> When I open a new page, a ?title block? is all I see, and there I can read >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I supposed to >> fill that in by using the Text tool ...? > > Yes! That's what I do, anyway. Other people have other ways of doing > it, I'm sure. :-) Sure! I attach attributes to the titleblock, so I can move the titleblock with the text. Typically these: id=$Id$ author=$Author$ date=$Date$ revision=$Revision$ and have subversion fill in the details. -- Stephan ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:08:39 +0100 From: Stephan Boettcher <[35][email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor) To: gEDA user mailing list <[36][email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Johnny Rosenberg" <[37][email protected]> writes: > Den 2010-12-22 20:47:41 skrev DJ Delorie <[[email protected]>: > >> >> The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature. You can disable it (I >> leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net >> >> I disable the magnetic net most of the time. It does seldom what i want it to do. -- Stephan ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:34:31 -0800 From: [39][email protected] Subject: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print To: [40][email protected] Message-ID: <aanlkti=[41][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find it better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot to be desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole, but I need some custom parts. I could use KCAD I guess, but I would really like to get to know gEDA as well. I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to make a foot print. I read the documents that are out there, but I am still not quite clear how to do this. I was able to do it graphically though I could not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no matter what I did. I would really like to understand how to do it by modifying the text files, but I don't really understand what the document I read is really doing. One thing that confuses me is why they are using negative coordinates. I thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left corner which does not make any sense to me if they are using negative coordinates that I saw in some of the examples. The graphics editor though definitely needs some work. I tried moving a component and it moved the component all right, but it did not move the circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air. Any help would be appreciated. Z.K. -------------- next part -------------- I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find it better than most I have tried. But the PCB program has a lot to be desired. I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole, but I need some custom parts. I could use KCAD I guess, but I would really like to get to know gEDA as well. I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to make a foot print. I read the documents that are out there, but I am still not quite clear how to do this. I was able to do it graphically though I could not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no matter what I did. I would really like to understand how to do it by modifying the text files, but I don't really understand what the document I read is really doing. One thing that confuses me is why they are using negative coordinates. I thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left corner which does not make any sense to me if they are using negative coordinates that I saw in some of the examples. The graphics editor though definitely needs some work. I tried moving a component and it moved the component all right, but it did not move the circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air. Any help would be appreciated. Z.K. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:41:38 -0500 From: DJ Delorie <[[email protected]> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print To: gEDA user mailing list <[43][email protected]> Cc: [44][email protected] Message-ID: <[45][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [46]http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/ Coordinates in footprints are relative to the footprint's "mark", or relative origin. The mark is indicated by the diamond. I.e. you don't move the diamond, you move everything else relative to the diamond :-) If you select stuff and move it, only the selected stuff moves. 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