On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:06:04 +0000
Omari Stephens <x...@xsdg.org> wrote:

> On 12/27/2012 02:16 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
> > Hi,
> > is there any way to assign strings to the marks? for example 
> > 'holiday-trip-2012' or 'new_york', 'family'
> >
> > also i can't get geeqie to actually write any metadata. tried both option 1 
> > ( in file), 2 (.metadata in image folder). option 3 is blanked out 
> > interestingly.
> > i enabled all write options (1s timeout, on image change, on directory 
> > change)
> > i assign marks to images, then go to other images or directories, or close 
> > and restart geeqie, and it has forgotten about the applied marks.
> > tried both geekie 1.1 and latest git build. this is on arch linux 64bit.
> >
> > the image directory and images have correct permissions (i can create new 
> > files, delete or alter existing files)
> >
> > any idea what might be wrong? i'ld love to try out the tagging features...
> 
> First off: marks are stored in-memory only.  This is why they go away 
> when you close geeqie (as you noticed).
> 
> Second: If you have keywords set up in geeqie, you can associate 
> specific marks with each keyword, and the keywords themselves are 
> persisted in the image metadata.  Note that you will need to redo the 
> keyword->mark association if you want to use them with marks after you 
> close geeqie
> 
> Steps:
> 1) Make sure you have the metadata panel open.  Ctrl+K
> 2a1) In the keywords section, right-click the _right_ pane, and select 
> "Add keyword" (should be the first entry in the context menu)
> 2a2) Type in your keyword
> 2b) They keywords section might already have a keyword you want to use, 
> if so; you don't need to add another one
> 3) Right-click the keyword (called "name" hereafter)
> 4) Go into 'Connect "name" to mark' and select an available mark (mark N)
> 
> Now, mark N is associated with the selected keyword.  If you add the 
> mark to an image, geeqie will add the associated keyword (which will be 
> saved).  If an image already has the specified keyword added, it will 
> also have the associated mark set.
> 
> 
> There are other options in the keywords context menu, but given the 
> above explanation, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out what the 
> others do, perhaps with some experimentation.
> 
> HTH,
> --xsdg
> 

thanks,
that clears up a lot.
1) is it possible to add keywords to the root of the tree? right now it seems I 
can only put them as a child of something existing (example: under People),
so when saving, it saves both People and "name".
2) is it possible to show connected keywords in the (header of the) marks 
matrix of the file listing?
3) do i understand correctly that to write keywords corresponding to images, 
the xmp files is the only mechanism that doesn't alter the actual images 
themselves?
because what I'm looking for is a simple way to associate a few keyword tags
(strings, non-hierarchical) to images, without altering the image files, and in 
a very easy and reusable/accessible way (for other scripts to leverage).  the 
xmp files are a bit big and hard to parse (and one file per image doesn't 
perform very well) so currently I'm using http://www.tmsu.org/
more specifically, I wrote some helper scripts (see 
https://github.com/Dieterbe/tmsu-helpers ) to 
* add tmsu tags from geeqie
* generate albums from tmsu tags
this approach is working great so far for my use case, I only wish I could show 
tmsu tags for each image in the geeqie image list, and/or in the image overlay. 
 tmsu support in geeqie would be cool. maybe as some kind of metadata plugin.. ?

Dieter
  

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