The Pull of Andrew Yang’s Pessimism


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The Pull of Andrew Yang’s Pessimism

Edward-Isaac Dovere

Once derided as a “novelty candidate,” the outsider Democrat is poised to hang 
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Once derided as a “novelty candidate,” the outsider Democrat is poised to hang 
on longer than many senators and governors in the 2020 primary race.
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EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE


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5:00 AM ET
Andrew Yang enjoying a turkey leg at the Iowa State FairSCOTT MORGAN / REUTERS
CLEAR LAKE, Iowa—The Best Western Holiday Lodge off Route 18 in northern Iowa 
feels like the right place to talk about how maybe it’s too late. Accept it, 
deal with it, Andrew Yang tells me, but try to make the best of it, and maybe 
we’ll even get somewhere decent along the way. But there’s no “patching the 
dam,” as he put it.. “The world has changed; the world is changing. We can’t 
put the genie back in the bottle, try as we might or wish as we might,” he told 
me. “We have to start dealing with the world as it is.”

(Our conversation can be heard in full on the Radio Atlantic podcast below.)

Yang has already qualified for the third Democratic-primary debate next month, 
while most of his competitors will not. Several candidates who fail to make the 
cut are expected to drop out by the end of September. Yang believes his support 
is much greater than polls can measure, claiming that his supporters—the “Yang 
Gang”—primarily use cellphones instead of the landlines that tend to make up 
the average polling groups. The Tesla founder Elon Musk tweeted “I support 
Yang” last week. “We’re going to shock the world come next February,” Yang told 
me, referring to the Iowa caucuses on February 3, 2020.

Yang thinks he’s tapped into a new strain of politics. He insists he’s not a 
fatalist or a nihilist. He figures himself to be an optimist, just one who sees 
how terrible things are and how much worse they can get, and he believes that 
the only way to get to the light is to acknowledge the darkness. “When you 
accept the circumstances that we’re going to be competing against technologies 
that have a marginal cost of near zero,” Yang told me, “then quickly you have 
to say, ‘Okay, how are we going to start valuing our time?’ Like, what does a 
21st-century economy look like, in a way that actually serves our interests, 
and not the capital-efficiency machine?”
This is the message coming from a 44-year-old former corporate lawyer from New 
York who spent years running a nonprofit investment firm. He has zero political 
experience and doesn’t pretend otherwise. “If you’re a politician, your 
incentives are to make with the happy talk and then get elected—and then 
solving the problems is secondary, because you have to raise money to try and 
get reelected, but no one ever back-checks you,” Yang told me. “The incentives 
are to say, ‘We can do this; we can do that. We can do the other thing.’ And 
then, meanwhile, society falls apart.”
Yang says that former Vice President Joe Biden is living in a fantasy of 
returning America to the way he remembers it. “We have to turn the clock 
forward,” Yang told me. He believes that no matter what Senators Elizabeth 
Warren of Massachusetts and Bernie Sanders of Vermont propose, there’s no real 
way to fight against corporate investment or technological advancement. 
Governor Jay Inslee of Washington and others talk about being the first 
generation to experience climate change and the last that can do something 
about it; Yang’s version is, “We’re the last generation to do anything about 
it. But it’s also correct that we’re late to the game.”
But this fatalistic perspective also informs some of Yang’s policy proposals: 
Why not begin to move “our people to higher ground” because sea-level rise is 
inevitable, as he said at the Detroit debate last month? Or tax Amazon to pay 
for a $1,000-a-month universal basic income for every American because physical 
stores can’t compete with the online retailer? Or trust that engineers and 
investors will close the 2 percent crash rate on automated vehicles by 
themselves? “The picture that the data paints is quite clear and dark and 
dystopian,” Yang told me. “Unfortunately, the dystopia is set to accelerate, 
because we’re just now having artificial intelligence leave the lab and hitting 
our big businesses … It’s about to get really hairy and nasty.”
Read: What do you do when no one takes you seriously?
Presidential campaigns tend toward optimism, from Ronald Reagan’s “Morning in 
America” to Barack Obama’s messages of “hope” and “change.” Donald Trump’s dark 
vision of America and his messianic casting of himself in 2016—from his “I 
alone can fix it” Republican National Convention speech to his “American 
carnage” inaugural address—reset that. Running against Trump, many Democrats 
talk about America’s deep problems, but no one appears to see as much going 
wrong as Yang.
Not having political experience has created some odd moments for Yang out on 
the trail, like when the self-declared nerdy candidate bounded onto the stage 
of South Carolina Representative Jim Clyburn’s fish fry last month and leaned 
back with the microphone cupped in both hands, pro-wrestler-style, screaming, 
“Helloooooo, South Carolina!”
Last Saturday in Iowa, Yang broke down in tears after hearing a mother at 
Everytown’s Presidential Gun Sense Forum talk about children being shot, saying 
he was envisioning his own sons getting killed. A few minutes later, he took on 
another tone entirely, telling reporters, “I challenge Donald Trump to any 
physical or mental feat under the sun. I mean, gosh, what could that guy beat 
me at, being a slob?” An aide tried to pull him away, but Yang kept going, the 
tears gone. “Like, what could Donald Trump possibly be better than me at? An 
eating contest? Like something that involved trying to keep something on the 
ground and having really large body mass? Like, if there was a hot-air balloon 
that was rising and you needed to try and keep it on the ground, he would be 
better than me at that? Because he is so fat.”
The exchange had started with Yang reminiscing about the giant turkey leg he’d 
eaten at the Iowa State Fair the day before. It ended with him daring Trump to 
run a mile, but the food photo is what made the rounds. “I can’t think of a 
better metaphor for Andrew Yang’s campaign than a photo of him literally biting 
off more than he can chew,” the Late Late Show host James Corden cracked on 
Monday night.
Though he has 170,000 donors, many of the people who show up for Yang in person 
are younger, disaffected men—the kind who may seem like they’re looking for a 
way out of work, or those who attack politics with destructive detachment. I 
asked Yang what he would say to the people who would look at those 
supporters—and at Yang himself—and say that they need to just “grow up.”
“I mean, if you think about it, why are we trapped in this subsistence labor 
model?” he replied. “Why is it that a job is 9 to 5 or 10 to 6? And my wife’s 
work [stay-at-home mom] is not a job .... Ninety-four percent of the new jobs 
created in the U.S. are gig, temporary, or contractor jobs at this point, and 
we still just pretend it’s the ’70s, where it’s like, ‘You’re going to work for 
a company, you’re going to get benefits, you’re going to be able to retire, 
even though we’ve totally eviscerated any retirement benefits, but somehow 
you’re going to retire,’” Yang said. “Young people look up at this and be like, 
‘This does not seem to work.’ And we’re like, ‘Oh, it’s all right.’ It’s not 
all right. We do have to grow up. I couldn’t agree more.”
Friends of mine outside politics bring up Yang’s name often, half of them 
asking who he is and half telling me that he’s made a point they agree with. A 
few aides on other campaigns have mentioned to me that they worry about how 
much support Yang seems to be attracting—not just because they’re jealous, but 
because they think what he’s pushing is dangerously seductive to people who 
they think should know better and stick with other candidates.
“I am surprisingly cool with people who would tend to minimize this campaign,” 
Yang told me. “It just makes our continued rise all the more exciting.”
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