It's probably really late to bring this up, but I know that heterogeneous ISA support is going hard, painful, and will have to be done very carefully not to make a big mess. There's probably quite a bit too much there for somebody to figure out in one summer, but if we leave it on the list we should try to reword the blurb to not make it sound like it'll just take a few adjustments and it'll all work out. I'd say it would be about half as hard as porting all of m5 into perl, for instance.

Gabe

Korey Sewell wrote:
yea, fair enough... good points.

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Ali Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yea, but we don't want the GSoC organizers to think that we're
 proposing a bunch of junk that we don't want to do. If I had time I
 would actually enjoy doing a direct execution model, parallelizing m5,
 or making an in-order core model. I would certainly not enjoy
 benchmarking and validation.

 Ali



 On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:06 AM, Korey Sewell wrote:

 > Also for new users or undergraduate studies, I think grunt work
 > wouldn't be that bad if you can port applications that are somewhat
 > interactive or provide "cool" output.
 >
 > Didn't someone get "DOOM" working somehow with SimpleScalar back in
 > the day?
 >
 > Stuff that has some kind of end "prize" can be motivational for
 > students just learning about computer architecture and such...
 >
 > And in the end, if it ends helping to grow the M5 software development
 > then that's great...
 >
 > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Ali Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >> I don't know that we should keep the Benchmarking and Verification
 >> section. I removed the old one because who really gets excited about
 >> which can only be described as grunt work.
 >>
 >> Ali
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> On Mar 12, 2008, at 1:27 AM, Korey Sewell wrote:
 >>
 >>> OK, I threw a couple of those in there as well. Looks like the
 >>> Project
 >>> List is filling out a bit... Only thing else I could think of
 >>> personally is add the PowerPC ISA port for M5 (hasn't someone worked
 >>> on that or is someone currently doing that?).
 >>>
 >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:18 AM, nathan binkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>> wrote:
 >>>> Write some blurbs about these ideas.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Korey Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>> wrote:
 >>>>> I added "Interface to Power Analysis tool" to the Project Ideas
 >>>>> list...
 >>>>>
 >>>>> I'm wondering if "Benchmarking & Verification on M5" or some
 >>>>> derivation of that would be relevant? The idea would be to verify
 >>>>> that
 >>>>> workloads and benchmarks of interest work properly on M5. This
 >>>>> could
 >>>>> add to some phase of our regression testing. Not sure this would
 >>>>> be
 >>>>> great "fun" for something to do, but it could be useful...
 >>>>>
 >>>>> What about Heterogenous ISA Systems?
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Transactional Memory? (Geoff has this but is it ready to be put
 >>>>> into
 >>>>> M5? Maybe someone could help him create a EXTRAS module or
 >>>>> something?)
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Processor Models (in addition to detailed-in-order): Graphics
 >>>>> Processor Model; Stream Processor Model; VLIW????
 >>>>>
 >>>>> That's all I can think of...  Let me know if that's fine to throw
 >>>>> in there...
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Ali Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> I've re-organized things a bit. I've completely changed the
 >>>>>> introduction and i'm working on what is now "other". Please
 >>>>>> work on
 >>>>>> turning the bullet point descriptions into a paragraphs. When you
 >>>>>> do
 >>>>>> please use the edit button next to the section you're working on
 >>>>>> (instead of editing the whole page), so that we don't step on
 >>>>>> each
 >>>>>> others changes.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Ali
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:43 PM, nathan binkert wrote:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>> The intro text needs to be changed significantly.  It looks way
 >>>>>>> too
 >>>>>>> much like the mercurial text.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Korey Sewell
 >>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>> I did some light work on the GSOC page setting it up more
 >>>>>>>> similar to
 >>>>>>>> the Mercurial style.
 >>>>>>>> - I added a light M5 introduction
 >>>>>>>> - Added Mentors List
 >>>>>>>> - Starting "Getting Things Done" Section...
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> The Project Ideas list still needs to be done more in the
 >>>>>>>> Mercurial
 >>>>>>>> style and the Getting Things Done section probably should be
 >>>>>>>> added as
 >>>>>>>> well...
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> I hope what I did helps the cause a bit!...
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:15 PM, nathan binkert
 >>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>> For the "ideas" page,  you could just list out device models
 >>>>>>>>>> that
 >>>>>>>>>> would be interesting. I see Flash Memory device, but if you
 >>>>>>>>>> guys
 >>>>>>>>>> that
 >>>>>>>>>> are familiar working with devices in M5 know of things off
 >>>>>>>>>> the
 >>>>>>>>>> top of
 >>>>>>>>>> your head that seems like a list that may be able to be
 >>>>>>>>>> populated
 >>>>>>>>>> rather quickly.
 >>>>>>>>> If you have something in mind, go ahead and add it.
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>> Also, how closely do we want to mirror Mercurial's style for
 >>>>>>>>>> Summer of
 >>>>>>>>>> Code 2008? If we are using this as a guide, we would need a
 >>>>>>>>>> separate
 >>>>>>>>>> introduction section for M5 & GSOC (like Ali said) and also
 >>>>>>>>>> each
 >>>>>>>>>> individual topic might not 1-3 sentences descrribing them as
 >>>>>>>>>> opposed
 >>>>>>>>>> to bullet points.
 >>>>>>>>> I like their style personally.
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>
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