Hi Tushar,

The simulation ran for 5,400,912,679 cycles. How do I reduce the cache
sizes? Which source files do I need to modify?

I was also looking into DSENT tool. To the extent I understood, the current
version of DSENT does not model the power of the Virtual Channel Allocation
stage. It only models the power for buffer, crossbar, switch allocator and
clock. I really need to calculate the power of the Virtual Channel
Allocation stage.

Thanks for your help.

Thanks,
Pavan

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Tushar Krishna <tus...@csail.mit.edu>wrote:

> Hi Pavan,
> There are two issues here.
> One, as Mitch pointed out, is that Orion is not entirely accurate.
> I would suggest computing activity counts from garnet and feeding them to
> DSENT.
>
> However, I have a feeling you will see a similar phenomenon (dynamic power
> >> leakage power) even with DSENT.
> How many cycles did your simulation run for?
> For full system runs in gem5, the network activity is typically very low
> (since network gets flits only on cache misses).
> As a result your dynamic power is very low.
> Network activity can be increased by reducing cache sizes.
>
> cheers,
> Tushar
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Pavan Poluri wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
>
> Thanks,
> Pavan
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Hayenga <
> mitch.hayenga+g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wouldn't trust the power model.  Garnet is based on Orion, which in the
>> last year a few papers have shown to be quite inaccurate (mostly because
>> its internal model doesn't scale some technology parameters properly).
>>
>> More Information:
>> 1.  Peh's group recently announced a more accurate power modeling tool
>> called DSENT (https://sites.google.com/site/mitdsent/).  In their paper
>> they highlight many issues with Orion and (at the 45nm node) find it
>> capable of being off by ~10x in power.
>>
>> 2. I published a WDDD paper on Orion showing my own brief investigation
>> into why its power/area numbers seemed disconnected with reality. (
>> http://www.ece.wisc.edu/~hayenga/papers/wddd2012_hayenga.pdf)
>>
>> Hope this helps.  Maybe the version of Orion integrated with Ruby/gem5
>> has received some updates, but unless you've heard otherwise, I wouldn't
>> trust it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Mitch Hayenga 
>> <mitch.haye...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wouldn't trust the power model.  Garnet is based on Orion, which in
>>> the last year a few papers have shown to be quite inaccurate (mostly
>>> because its internal model doesn't scale some technology parameters
>>> properly).
>>>
>>> More Information:
>>> 1.  Peh's group recently announced a more accurate power modeling tool
>>> called DSENT (https://sites.google.com/site/mitdsent/).  In their paper
>>> they highlight many issues with Orion and (at the 45nm node) find it
>>> capable of being off by ~10x in power.
>>>
>>> 2. I published a WDDD paper on Orion showing my own brief investigation
>>> into why its power/area numbers seemed disconnected with reality. (
>>> http://www.ece.wisc.edu/~hayenga/papers/wddd2012_hayenga.pdf)
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  Maybe the version of Orion integrated with Ruby/gem5
>>> has received some updates, but unless you've heard otherwise, I wouldn't
>>> trust it.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Pavan Poluri 
>>> <poluripa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have executed the Blackscholes application of the PARSEC benchmark
>>>> suite with 16 threads on the input file set (in_4.txt) with a full system
>>>> simulation with 16 cores, 16 L2 caches and 16 directories on a mesh
>>>> topology with 4 rows. I have used the MOESI_CMP_directory protocol. The
>>>> technology used is 90nm with a clock frequency of 1GHz and operating
>>>> voltage VDD of 1.2V. I was going through the power statistics in the
>>>> ruby.stats file. The following are the power numbers from the simulation.
>>>>
>>>> Router Dynamic Power = 0.00710691 W => 0.4441 mW per router
>>>> Router Static Power = 0.452366 W => 28.272 mW per router
>>>> Router Clock Power = 0.541901 W
>>>>
>>>> I am confused with these power numbers. The dynamic power is very very
>>>> less compared to the static power. I do not understand why the dynamic
>>>> power is so low even when the simulation resulted in the injection of
>>>> 75,899,868 flits and the successful reception of 75,899,865 flits. Am I
>>>> doing something wrong with the simulation? Do I need to set some parameters
>>>> for the power calculations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Pavan
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> mitch.haye...@gmail.com
>>>
>>
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