Hi Adrian,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:29 PM
> To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Next steps with draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-extensions
> 
> Hi Dimitri,
> 
> Looking at your response to David Black's review, I think an 
> update to the 
> draft is needed. I'd like to get it onto an IESG agenda 
> before Anaheim as it 
> has several Ethernet drafts backed up behind it.
> 
> >> Sections 5.1.4, 5.2.1 and 8 have me confused about the
> >> Attributes Flags TLV:
> >> - Section 5.1.4 defines an Attributes Flags TLV here
> >
> > for Virtual TE links: the CALL ATTRIBUTE is defined in this document
> >
> >> - Section 5.2.1 points to RFC 5420 for what's apparently a 
> different
> >>   Attributes Flags TLV and defines a Pre-Planned LSP flag in
> >> that TLV.
> >
> > for Soft FA's: the LSP ATTRIBUTE defined in RFC 5420 is used to
> > introduced a new flag
> >
> >> - Section 8 then apparently instructs IANA to put that bit into the
> >>   Attributes Flags TLV defined in Section 5.1.4 .
> >>   Something appears to be wrong with this combination - what was
> >>   the intent?  If these two TLVs are the same, or share a 
> common bit
> >>   assignment registry, that should be stated.
> >
> > I will clarify this because as they both refer to 
> "attributes" precision 
> > of the terms
> > used is indeed critical
> 
> I think David is quite right that there is confusion. My 
> understanding is as follows...
> 
> There are two separate objects: the Call_Attribute object and the 
> LSP_Attribute object.
> 
> Both of these objects can carry a TLV called the "Attributes 
> Flags TLV". But 
> this is a DIFFERENT TLV for the two objects. In the first 
> case, it is for 
> use in the Call_Attribute object and is defined in this 
> document. In the 
> second case it is for use on the LSP_Attribute object and is 
> defined in RFC 
> 4020 with this document only defining a new flag.
> 
> My suggestion to make this crystal clear is to change the name of the 
> Attributes Flags TLV carried in the Call_Attribute object to 
> be the "Call 
> Attibutes Flags TLV". I think this is a really easy search 
> and replace, and 
> fixes this issue.

I have re-submitted a v12 with the following changes

. Attributes TLV -> Call Attributes TLV

. Attributes Flag TLV -> Call Attributes Flags TLV

and revisited corresponding text.

> David also said...
> 
> >> The IACD sub-TLV formats for OSPF and IS-IS appear to be
> >> identical.  If they are in fact identical, a single ASCII 
> text diagram
> >> should be used for both.
> 
> They are identical, but that is only good fortune. There is 
> no requirement 
> that they be the same, and there is no required mapping 
> between the two. 
> Furthermore, a future revision might need to change the 
> format or content 
> for one protocol, but not for the other, etc. Thus, we prefer 
> to keep the definitions distinct.

I refer to the OSPF format for v12 (I can re-include in the next
revision). 

> >> The description of the IACD sub-TLV format does not describe the
> >> Max LSP Bandwidth fields.  At a minimum the units and/or 
> encoding of
> >> these fields should be described here, even thought the full
> >> specification may be elsewhere.
> 
> David is correct that the fields should be mentioned, but I 
> think it would 
> be OK to include a reference to RFC4203 and RFC5307.
> 
> >> Please add the values for Type and Length for the XRO SC
> >> subobject into the ASCII figure in Section 4.1.1 .
> 
> The convention in RSVP-TE is to not include the Type and Length (most 
> relevantly, see RFC 4874). It would be inappropriate to change that 
> convention here.

I made these clarifications in the re-submitted document v12. If not
required I will change back.

> >> Section 4.1.2 defines a new subobject by making minor changes to an
> >> existing one in another RFC; a complete ASCII diagram of the new
> >> subobject would be helpful - please add one.
> 
> There is absolutely no change in the format of the subobject. 
> The only 
> difference is the interpretation of the L bit. In order to keep the 
> subobjects in lock-step, it is preferable to not include a 
> further ASCII 
> diagram.

Same here.

> >> idnits 2.12.00 found three nits:
> >>
> >>   == The page length should not exceed 58 lines per page, but
> >>         there was 1 longer page, the longest (page 1) 
> being 62 lines
> 
> This is the first page caused by leading several CRLF
> 
> >>   ** There are 144 instances of too long lines in the
> >>        document, the longest one being 1 character in
> >>        excess of 72.
> 
> Seems to be a product of MS Word.
> I think the whole thing needs to be left-shifted by 7 spaces.

Right, the "shift" is resulting from the Word template. 

> >>   == Line 781 has weird spacing: '...ndwidth  is st...'
> 
> Yup. Section 5.2.2 para 2 has a double space.
> 
> Finally, could you or Lou please confirm the IANA actions in 
> the email from Amanda on the 16th.

Done. I've sent a revision e-mail yesterday

Thanks,
-dimitri.

> Many thanks,
> Adrian 
> 
> 
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