Hi Paul,

In that case, please update the abstract and introduction to make the intent of 
the document clear.  It would be helpful for the reader to understand the 
intent as they start reading the document.

The discussion referenced was posted to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>.  I 
think folks are addressing that discussion, so there is no need for me to jump 
into it.  Here is a link that should pull up all the messages on this draft in 
the last month across all mailing lists:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?q=yourtchenko&qdr=m

Best regards,
Kathleen

From: Paul Aitken [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:17 PM
To: Moriarty, Kathleen; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Gen-art review of draft-yourtchenko-cisco-ies-09

Kathleen, All,

Apologies for jumping in here, but I wasn't privvy to the earlier discussion to 
which you allude.

Summary:  This draft extends RFC3954, but is specific to Cisco.

No, this draft does not extend RFC 3954.

RFC 3954 specifies the NFv9 Protocol and the associated Information Model. The 
model is extensible, and I own the netflow-police hat for reviewing, approving, 
and actioning NFv9 extensions.

The IPFIX Protocol (RFC 7011) has its own Information Model (RFC 7012, IANA) 
which is also extensible upon application to IANA, subject to expert review by 
IE-doctors (RFC 7013).

The yourtchenko-cisco-ies draft extends the IPFIX Information model. Per 
section 6 of the draft, "IANA Considerations":



   This document specifies several new IPFIX Information Elements in the

   IPFIX Information Element registry

The IPFIX Information Model was initially based upon the NFv9 Information 
Model. Indeed, the two are generally considered to be synonymous.

The extensions which are being added to the IPFIX model seek to retain that 
synonymity by describing NFv9 elements which were not known or defined at the 
time RFC 3954 was written. These can be adopted into the IPFIX Information 
Model to retain compatibility, rather than defining equivalent IPFIX elements 
with different IDs from NFv9 and thus complicating life for every netflow 
collector.

Note that this is not a change to either the NFv9 or IPFIX protocols.


P.


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