Jari,

On 3/26/14 2:31 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> Thanks for the review and suggested changes. Suresh, would you be OK with 
> Ted's proposed change?
> 
> We need to resolve this before the document can be approved, I think.

As shepherding AD, I agree this should be resolved prior to approval.

Regards,
Brian

> 
> Jari
> 
> On Mar 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Ted Lemon <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Suresh Krishnan <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> * Section 4.1 (b)
>>>
>>> The following text is unclear.
>>>
>>> "if the relay agent receives the message for which it is not the target 
>>> according to the message type."
>>>
>>> The text that follows talks about new server-to-relay messages sent to the 
>>> relay agent being forwarded back to the server. Such a message will not 
>>> meet either of the conditions laid out in Section 4.1.
>>
>> It might be better to make point (b) this way:
>>
>>     (b) if the relay agent receives the message for which it does
>>         not identify itself as the target.
>>
>>  At present the only DHCP message that could be intended for a relay
>>  agent would be a LEASEQUERY-REPLY message [RFC5007].   Such messages
>>  are only correctly generated in response to LEASEQUERY messages sent
>>  by a relay agent acting as a leasequery requestor.   It is therefore
>>  expected that such messages will be able to be identified by relay
>>  agents.
>>
>> The text that follows is intended to address the case where a new message 
>> type is defined that is intended to be sent, unsolicited, to a relay agent.  
>>  It might be made clearer as follows:
>>
>>   New DHCP message types may be defined in future that are sent,
>>   unsolicited, to relay agents.  Relay agents
>>   that do not implement these messages will not recognize such
>>   messages as being intended for them.  A relay agent that implements this
>>   specification will therefore forward such messages to the DHCP
>>   servers to which it is configured to relay client messages.
>>
>>   At this time, no such message types have been specified.  If
>>   such a message is specified in the future, it is possible that this
>>   would result in needless load on DHCP servers.   If such a message
>>   type is defined in a future specification, authors may need to
>>   consider some strategy for identifying non-conforming relays and
>>   not sending such messages to them.
>>
>>   However, since DHCP servers do not respond to unknown messages,
>>   this is unlikely to create significant load, and therefore is
>>   likely to be unnecessary. 
>>
>>> The following text seems extraneous
>>>
>>> "  However, this is not strictly necessary, since DHCP does not provide
>>>  a signaling message for rejecting unexpected message types, and
>>>  therefore DHCP servers are not expected to respond to such messages."
>>>
>>> What exactly is "this" referring to? The DHCP server is not responding 
>>> anyway to such messages.
>>
>> The reason for not just deleting this text is that it _is_ possible to 
>> define an unsolicited relay message in such a way that it could cause 
>> problems, so the author really does need to think about it, and it's 
>> reasonably likely that they will read this advice before doing so, or at 
>> least that someone who reviews the document will be aware of this advice.
>>
>>
>>> * Section 4.2
>>>
>>> The prescribed behavior here is contradicts the text in section 4.1 
>>> defining a valid message. Specifically, what happens when a relay receives 
>>> an unknown message type for which it is the intended target. According to 
>>> 4.1, the relay does nothing. According to 4.2 the relay forwards.
>>
>> No, according to 4.1 it forwards as well, unless it's the intended recipient 
>> of the message.   And it can only tell that it's the intended recipient if 
>> it understands that type of message.   So the two sections do not contradict 
>> each other.   Hopefully this is more clear with the new text.   Stephen 
>> Farrell raised some related questions; updating the text as I've suggested 
>> should address his concerns as well.
>>
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