Hi Dan,

On 10/13/2014 10:46 AM, Wojciech Dec (wdec) wrote:
Hello Dan,

Thank you for you comments. I’m reading an updated draft, however there
is one point that I am unable to address fully:

“2."2.The status of this document is Experimental. It is not clear why.
There are no experimental documents in the softwire WG charter, and the
status of the ‘sister’ document draft-ietf-softwire-map is Standards
Track. Why the difference?”

Together with the other authors, we fully agree that the draft does not
fit the “experimental” status, as in it actually uses standards track
technology (NAT64) as well as the sister (standard track) MAP. There
also are a number of reports about MAP-T testing
(http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cordeiro-experience-mapt-01 ), and a
handful of commercial implementations. As Xing commented earlier on, the
decision on the track was made by the WG by means of a coin toss, which
in our opinion wasn’t based on technical merits.

Just so that nobody misunderstands what happened with the coin toss, I will explain what the coin toss was about. First off, I want to state that MAP-T's experimental status **WAS NOT** determined by a coin toss.

The coin toss only determined whether MAP-E and MAP-T were to be treated as one solution or two. The WG was split on this question and I opted to ask the ADs for a coin toss to resolve this deadlock. Period. The coin toss was not used for anything else.

The questions I used can be found in the proceedings at

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-softwire-15.pdf

MAP-E was confirmed as the Standards track solution starting with this thread that I initiated.

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/softwires/current/msg04719.html

The WG opted to publish MAP-T as an experimental document as a result of *another* consensus call. Thread at

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/softwires/current/msg04817.html

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

Thanks
Suresh


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