Robert,

Thanks a lot for your contribution to this work.

Comments inline [pfr]

Pierre.

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> On Jun 25, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Robert Sparks <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
> 
> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
> 
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
> you may receive.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-grow-filtering-threats-06
> Reviewer: Robert Sparks
> Review Date: 24-Jun-2015
> IETF LC End Date: 2-Jul-2015
> IESG Telechat date: not yet scheduled for a telechat
> 
> Summary: Ready with nits
> 
> From looking at the document history and list archives, this document's been 
> around for some time, and has had some editorial push already.
> The unintended consequences it highlights are interesting, and it will be 
> useful to operators to know these possible causes of unexpected behavior.
> 
> I encourage another strong editing pass before publication.
> 
> This is being published as an IETF-stream document. When published it 
> reflects IETF consensus.
> There are places in the text that I think are problematic given that status. 
> The issues are editorial, and I expect they will be easy to address.
> 
> The document uses "we" frequently. Originally, that meant the authors. It's 
> ambiguous what it means in an IETF-stream document. I suggest editing out all 
> occurrences. Try to avoid simply changing "we" to "the authors" - find a way 
> to reflect what the IETF is saying here.

[pfr] I agree. We'll do that.

> 
> Is the last paragraph of 4.1 an IETF consensus position on how operators 
> might charge one another? It would be good to find a way to word this that 
> look more like statements of fact and less like charging advice.

[pfr] This sentence dates from the time we were interviewing ops and peering 
managers, asking them what they'd do. We got this as an answer a couple of 
times. I think Job's proposal to remove it is the right approach.


> 
> The document draws some conclusions that I think are unnecessary. For 
> instance, "Therefore, we conclude that the reactive approach is the more 
> reasonable recommendation to deal with unexpected flows." Why does the IETF 
> need to say that (and is it an IETF consensus statement)? It would be enough, 
> I think, to reduce the discussion in these sections to calling out the issues 
> with each approach.

[pfr] Can I use the IETF vs authors trick here? 

> 
> Please simplify the sentences, and avoid passive construction. For instance, 
> "It can be considered problematic to be causing unexpected traffic flows in 
> other ASes." can be much shorter. After you do that, I think you'll find it 
> easier to identify and collapse sections of redundant text.

[pfr] Thanks a lot for the feedback. 

Pierre.


> 
> RjS
> 

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