Hello, Warren

Just uploaded the 12th version. The only change is status of GOST R 34.11-94 -- DEPRECATED.

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Boris

23.10.2022 18:20, Warren Kumari пишет:




On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:54 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:41 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 7:22 AM, Paul Hoffman
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Ron Even
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

                1. whis is this an informational RFC and not a
                standard track RFC.

            That's a reasonable question with a simple answer: because
            the WG changed its mind on what the status of this
            protocol should be. RFC 5933 describes a national standard
            that is thinly deployed. At the time, it was necessary to
            have the protocol on standards track; now it no longer is
            required.

                2. What is requested from IANA. ths text you wrote and
                I copied is not a directive to IANA that is clear

            You are correct that the IANA Considerations section is
            quite unclear, and needs to be clarified before the IESG
            considers it.



        That is a good point.

        The document says:
        ---
        This document updates the RFC IANA registry "Delegation Signer
        (DS) Resource Record (RR) Type Digest Algorithms" by adding an
        entry for the GOST R 34.11-2012 algorithm:

        Value   Algorithm
        TBA2    GOST R 34.11-2012

           The entry for Value 3, GOST R 34.11-94 should be updated to
        have its Status changed to '-'.
        ----

        The IANA registry being referenced "DNSSEC Delegation Signer
        (DS) Resource Record (RR) Type Digest Algorithms" is here:
        https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/ds-rr-types.xhtml
        <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/ds-rr-types.xhtml>

        Setting this to '-' does seem incorrect, and from the text I
        think that it should be either "MUST NOT" or, better yet (for
        clarity) "DEPRECATED" .

        In addition, the IANA has a question:
        ------
        "Third, in the DNSSEC Delegation Signer (DS) Resource Record
        (RR) Type Digest Algorithms registry located at:

        https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/
        <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/>

        a new registration will be made as follows:

        Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ]
        Description: GOST R 34.11-2012
        Status:
        Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

        IANA Question --> What should the entry for "Status" be for
        this new registration?"
        --------




        I believe that it is clear (e.g: "6.  Implementation
        Considerations
           The support of this cryptographic suite in DNSSEC-aware
        systems is
        OPTIONAL.") that it can only be OPTIONAL, but we need to
        clearly state that.

        So, I think a new version should be submitted saying:
        ----
        This document updates the RFC IANA registry "Delegation Signer
        (DS)
           Resource Record (RR) Type Digest Algorithms" by adding an
        entry for
           the GOST R 34.11-2012 algorithm:

        Value:   TBA2
        Description: GOST R 34.11-2012
        Status: OPTIONAL
          Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]

           The entry for Value 3, GOST R 34.11-94 should be updated to
        have its
           Status changed to 'DEPRECATED'.


    A new version was submitted (-11), but still says:
    "   The entry for Value 3, GOST R 34.11-94 should be updated to
    have its
       Status changed to '-'."

    The registry is here:
    https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/ds-rr-types.xhtml
    <https://www.iana.org/assignments/ds-rr-types/ds-rr-types.xhtml>

    '-' to me implies that the codepoint hasn't  been used, but I
    don't actually know if that's true. I think "DEPRECATED" is
    better, but perhaps I'm wrong (anyone seeing '-' will presumably
    do read the referenced RFC, so…_)

    I will ask the IANA which they think is best / clearest…


Closing the loop:

I reached out to the IANA, and this was their reply:
"Hi Warren,

It makes sense to us to list "DEPRECATED" in the status column. When we're asked to deprecate a codepoint, the label "deprecated" is usually added to the registration in some way.

"-" is a bit of a cipher, and doesn't indicate that there's been a change.

thanks,
Amanda
"

If the authors post a new version before the draft cut-off (Monday) with this addressed I should be able to move it along.

Thank you all,
W




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            --Paul Hoffman

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