Hi,

On 9 Feb 2024, at 19:51, Ran Atkinson wrote:

>> On Feb 7, 2024, at 06:46, Rick Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The main point of discussion here is about IETF process: obsoleting IRTF
>> documents by the IETF is considered unusual. Finding a simple way around
>> this, such as not obsoleting 7116 is an approach we could consider, it's
>> just a matter of determining a valid reason why the ipn update doesn't
>> obsolete 7116.
>
> Rick,
>
> I apologize if this sounds unreasonable, but I really think you are making 
> this process much too complex.
>
> First, maybe you open a conversation with the IRTF Chair and describe the 
> situation as you see it.
> Then ask if the IRTF Chair or IRSG would agree to move that IRTF document to 
> Historic status ?
>
> It is possible that someone (might be them or might be you) would need to 
> create a short "IRTF Track" document which explains the background and then 
> changes the status of the applicable documents to “Historic” or whatever is 
> deemed sensible by the IRTF Chair.

We wrote https://www.irtf.org/policies/cross-stream-updates.html the last time 
a similar issue came up. Does it address your concern? (The "other stream 
manager" would be the IETF Chair, if this is an IETF document)

Colin


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