Sue,

Thanks for your comments and your offer to work this out in a videoconference. 
I’ve reached out a few times to set this up and didn’t hear back – perhaps it’s 
being blocked as SPAM?

Replies to your individual points are below, marked [NLK]. We uploaded a new 
version of the document to reflect your comments:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-updt-ipv6-dyn-mcast-addr-grp-id/

Cheers,

Nate

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Document: draft-ietf-pim-updt-ipv6-dyn-mcast-addr-grp-id Title: Updates to 
Dynamic IPv6 Multicast Address Group IDs Reviewer: Sue Hares Review result: Not 
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Document: draft-ietf-pim-updt-ipv6-dyn-mcast-addr-grp-id

Title: Updates to Dynamic IPv6 Multicast Address Group IDs

Reviewer: Sue Hares

Review result: Not Ready



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Document: draft-ietf-pim-updt-ipv6-dyn-mcast-addr-grp-id-??

Reviewer: Sue Hares

Review Date: 2025-12-09

IETF LC End Date: 2025-11-28

IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat



Summary: Not Ready

Two Major issues bring the draft to this state:

1) alignment with IANA considerations guidelines in RFC8126

(see RFC9778's interpretation of RFC8126).



2) I'm confused by how this document updates the registries in the IPv6

Multicast Address space.



I am happy to work with the author team on a video conference to help them

quickly resolve this issue.



Major issues:



1) Alignment with IANA considerations guidelines in RFC8126

(see RFC9778's interpretation of RFC8126)



Section 4 contains a registry group (IPv6 Multicast Address Space Registry)

and the new registry name (Dynamic Multicast Group IDs).



However, it does not put all the information into the formats I expected.

It goes against the guidelines from RFC8126 by not putting

 all the information needed in the IANA considerations section.



[NLK] The main thing that was missing was description of the fields in the 
registry. This has been added by the latest version. Please let me know if 
there was something else we missed as well.



2) Updating the current registries in the IPv6 Multicast Address Space Registry.



I cannot determine from the text how the current registries

(IPv6 Multicast Address Scopes, Node-Local Scope Multicast Addresses,

Link-Local Scope Multicast Addresses, Site-Local Scope Multicast Addresses, and

 Variable Scope Multicast Addresses) interact with the new registry.



[NLK]

These registries are all related to values used to construct IPv6 multicast 
addresses. IPv6 Multicast Address Scopes is related to the second octet in the 
address. The other registries you listed are related to the last 32 bits of the 
address (the group ID), each scope getting its own registry.



The values assigned in these registries should be constrained to 0-0x3FFFFFFF 
to reflect the “Permanent IPv6 Multicast Addresses” outlined in RFC 3307. The 
one entry that seems to deviate from this is for “ISO 25750 Secured Ship 
Network”, which was added after the initial draft of our document. We will 
follow up with this.

[/NLK]



There is overlap in the proposed address ranges (0xFF000000 to 0xFFFFFFFF), and

this draft's text does not clearly describe how the existing registries interact

with the new table.



[NLK] Table 1 of this document reflects current effective assignments and notes 
an overlap in address ranges. Table 2 reflects the initial values for the new 
registry and there should not be any remaining entries that overlap.



The authors may have thought through this carefully, but I cannot determine

this interaction.



3) After the authors finish reworking the text to fix issues 1 and 2,

please remember to go through how the "Unicast-based (Including SSM) Multicsat

Group IDs" registry needs to be updated.



[NLK]

The changes to this registry recommended don’t necessarily reflect a formal 
“update”, it provides more information about an existing entry. Either way, I 
could be mistaken in how I’m reading this, but only the first entry requires 
expert review:



FF3X:0:0:0:0:0:4000:0-FF3X:0:0:0:0:0:7FFF:FFFF - Expert Review; see registry at 
[https://www.iana.org/assignments/perm-mcast-groupids]



The second entry just contains a note:



FF3X:0:0:0:0:0:8000:0-FF3X:0:0:0:0:0:FFFF:FFFF - Dynamically allocated by hosts 
when needed [RFC4607].

[/NLK]



in the IPv6 Multicast Address Space



Minor issues: none



Nits/editorial comments:

The sentence structure of the Abstract lacks subjects in sentences

1, 2, and 3. This makes reading the text like reading a bullet list rather than

a description.



Possible fixes:

sentence 1:

Old: /Describes/

New: /This document describes/



sentence 2:

Old: /Recommends/

New: /It Recommends/



Sentence 3:

Old: / Suggests/

New: /It also suggests/







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